[meteorite-list] Primitive Achondrite Question

Alan Rubin aerubin at ucla.edu
Tue Dec 6 14:01:50 EST 2011


Classifications are just a way of making sense of the world by putting 
diverse objects into tidy categories.  Even though real-world objects don't 
always fit (is light a wave or a particle?), good classifications last 
longer than interpretations.  For example, the Linnaeus classification 
system was developed from a creationist perspective but is used today by 
every evolutionary biologist.  So, to answer your question, classification 
is an end in itself -- it certainly helps in understanding relationships 
among diverse objects.  But classification is not the only end --  
understanding the origins of objects is also rather important, but because 
we have incomplete knowledge of objects, our interpretations are always 
tentative, subject to revision when new data are acquired.  Classifications 
should be longer-lasting.
    As an aside, if you are interested in bad classification systems for 
meteorites, look at George Merrill's "The Story of Meteorites" from 1929: 
There are andrites, eukrites, shergottites, howardites, bustites, 
chassignites, chladnites, amphoterites, howarditic chondrites, white 
chondrites, intermediate chondrites, gray chondrites, black chondrites, 
spherulitic chondrites, crystalline chondrites, carbonaceous chondrites, 
orvinites, tadjerites, ureilites, lodranies, grahamite mesosiderites, 
siderophyrs, and more.  Some of the groups are still recogniable, others 
less so.  The problem was that the knowledge base at the time was 
insufficient to distinguish essential from secondary properties.  Similar 
problems arose among classification schemes of living creatures and 
especially fossils.

Alan


Alan Rubin
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "MexicoDoug" <mexicodoug at aim.com>
To: <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>; <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 9:31 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Primitive Achondrite Question


> Adam wrote:
>
> "NWA 3133 is a CV Primitive Achondrite"
>
> Hi Adam, thanks ... The asteroid belt ought to be called the asteroid zoo!
>
> The question I have on this one, if CV is for certain, would be whether it 
> is the result of a collision with a typical CV type, or is it certain that 
> it is a fully baked CV (what happened to the possible CAI's - are there 
> any, or is the CV possibly just impact regolith?), or, whether some 
> innocent CV got hot all by itself.
>
>
> Kinest wishes
> Doug
>
> (Why does my wallet retract down my pocket every time ths stuff comes up!)
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>
> To: Adam <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Tue, Dec 6, 2011 11:47 am
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Primitive Achondrite Question
>
>
> Doug wrote: I can't wait until someone turns up a CV6+. Theoretically, 
> there is
> no reason to
> bar the possibility,, or is there...
>
> NWA 3133 is a CV Primitive Achondrite
>
> All of these oxygen isotope compositions
> plot on the CV3 mixing line, suggesting that this achondritic meteorite 
> has
> affinities with CV chondrites (Irving et al., 2004).
>
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