[meteorite-list] Curry Montrose Meteorites and Walter L. Newton

[MexicoDoug]

Hi Greg C

If you wanted to market a meteorite, and trademark it:

Let's say you have NWA 6658 and wanted to distinguish your product 
because you held a huge mass of it and were heavily invested.  While I 
am totally in agreement with your thought about the official scientific 
literature name assignment as I posted before too, a trademark need not 
be the exact nomcom assignment.

You could enjoy all the benefits of a trademarked meteorite name for 
example if you registered MES-6658, which is not a scientific name but 
rather your assigned commercial name.  I am not trying to be a 
marketing department here so forgive me if the names aren't sexy enough 
that I use for illustration.

If Haag, for example, wishes to market his Esquel like this, there is 
no reason I see why he couldn't trademark "PerEsquel" (and allow his 
customers to use the name as well) or some better thought out name to 
emphasize he is a major supplier of it and it cvontains precious stones 
- peridots.

I have mixed feelings about such trademarking, but in some cases it 
could make sense.

Kindest wishes
Doug


-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Catterton <star_wars_collector at yahoo.com>
To: MexicoDoug <mexicodoug at aim.com>; raremeteorites at yahoo.com 
<raremeteorites at yahoo.com>; meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com 
<meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Wed, Aug 31, 2011 1:58 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Curry Montrose Meteorites and Walter L. 
Newton



I dont think we (those who have NWA numbers assigned to meteorites) 
actually "own" the number.
Its my understanding that the number is simply a designation given to a 
meteorite to identify it. Dont think trademarks or copyrights would 
apply.

 
Greg Catterton
www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites
On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites


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From: MexicoDoug <mexicodoug at aim.com>
To: raremeteorites at yahoo.com; meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Curry Montrose Meteorites and Walter L. 
Newton

Adam,

Definitely worth a try, but what can you present to show you own an NWA 
official number as intellectual property.

Can a Nom Com official meteorite name be trademarked, and does anybody 
own anything once it is published in the scientific literature?  There 
should be some marketing rights as you suggest, but I think they would 
be limited to an argument of defamation of all authentic vendors of NWA 
5K, in the sense of potentially libelous statements that are not 
properly researched with the intent to draw sales away from NWA 5K, if 
I understand your unwanted predicament.  Come to think of it NWA 5K is 
a trademarkable product, but probably not with the number 5000 which is 
public domain. I have never seen a dealer trademark a meteorite in this 
way, but why not?  It would allow claims beyond the basics and in some 
instance could be a useful marketing tool.   At the moment, though, it 
looks like NWA 5K is not trademarked, though this might give some 
dealers ideas on how to distinguish their noteworthy products:

http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=login&p_lang=english&p_d=trmk

Walter - As I mentioned before I have nothing further to say in the 
solutions department than already posted, and if that doesn't work for 
you - good luck in finding something constructive to do that will solve 
this problem that seems to have caused many unnecessary frustrations in 
the meteorite community.

Doug


-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>
To: Adam <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Wed, Aug 31, 2011 1:13 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Curry Montrose Meteorites and Mexico Doug


Steve Curry showed up after watching too many meteorite TV shows which 
he
mentioned by name in his auctions a few years ago.

This
was about the same time some idiot sent me a "several million dollar"
spent CM1 toilet plunger in the mail against my will.  He even accused
me of pinching a few hundred grams for myself after I sent it back.  
What a
nightmare this guy was.

I think
everybody should report his fraudulent auctions at once to eBay.  A NOCI
form will be filed soon because this freak has enough nerve to compare
his terrestrial trash to NWA 5K!

Adam
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