[meteorite-list] tatahouine

[MEM]

Erics post about his opinion of what was or was not list business was responded 
to off list --as he demanded but did not do himself.  I also repeated for the 
nth time my desire to be removed from his mailing list for ebay auctions..sigh.

My post about a specific incidence of questionable "Ethics".   In the meteorite 
hobby, ethics extends beyond "which country allows or doesn't allow meteorite 
export".  When someone is potentially breaking a law then it is legitimate 
discussion--especially when they are so in your face about it and freely posts 
the details to the list.  When someone is posting what most might believe to be 
personal details (e.g. TMI )then it is also fodder for list discussion when it 
raises the specter of fraud or abuse.  Under that license, I addressed a 
questionable activity to ensure that ethics were in fact being adhered to.  
Seems the enablers don't care truly care about ethics-- just situational ethics 
and protecting their diseased cows at the risk and expense other cow herders.   


None of us wants Steve to "inadvertantly" violate any laws--especially any that 
would bring discredit to the hobby. I think he was fairly notified that someone 
IS looking over his shoulder just in case.  This is a good thing as Martha might 
have said during her stint up river.

Elton





----- Original Message ----
> From: Meteorites USA <eric at meteoritesusa.com>
> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Sent: Sat, April 2, 2011 1:11:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] tatahouine
> 
> Elton, I fail to see how Steve's personal life, or business is any of 
> yours.  Nor can I see where your borderline libel and inflammatory post 
> has any  place on this list.
> 
> I'm not sure anyone here wishes to read it, and it's  an obvious personal 
> attack with legal implications. Just because you have  something in your 
> craw for Steve doesn't mean everyone here on list wants to  read or hear 
> about it. Your post is highly unprofessional and perhaps  illegal unto 
> itself. Please take personal and legal matters offlist!
> 
> Regards,
> Eric
> 
> 
> 
> On 4/2/2011 9:52 AM, MEM  wrote:
> > (NOTE: waste, fraud , and abuse of public funds is a matter of  public 
>interest)
> >
> >
> > Steve,  If you were to ask, I am  sure some folks here on the list would 
>"rent"
> > you some   meteorites-- Netflix-style-- you can swap out every 2 weeks and 
>save
> > all  the
> >
> > hassle of buying high and selling low.
> >
> >  However I need to ask: are you using your unemployment check again to  buy
> > meteorites? We both know the  Illinois Department of Labor  doesn't look 
>kindly
> > on using
> >
> > unemployment funds to  purchase inventory for  business-activity--and they
> > consider buying  and selling
> >
> > business-activity whether declared or not.  In  fact one isn't eligible for
> > unemployment if they run their own business,  and if it is an unlicensed
> > business.  That gets into the fraud  arena....again.
> >
> > One may not own/operate a "business" while  drawing unemployment
> > compensation--and...well you already know that  don't you? You may not be 
>earning
> >
> > "wages" but you aren't  unemployed, if you are buying and selling.  Some 
>folks
> >  have
> >
> > the  the IDOL Fraud Hotline on speed dial. The  messages you post on the 
>internet
> >
> > are  evidence that you  engage in buying and selling during times of
> >  unemployment.
> >
> > I don't know the penalty of a conviction on this  but is it really worth the 
>risk
> >
> > and given everything else you  say is on your plate do you really want to 
>take
> > groceries money to spend  $350-600 for something you will eventually sell 
for
> > $70-80 out of  desperation.
> >
> > Elton
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----  Original Message ----
> >    
> >> From: stevearnold<stevenarnold60120 at yahoo.com>
> >>  To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> >>  Sent: Fri, April 1, 2011 9:04:52 AM
> >> Subject: [meteorite-list] tatahouine
> >>
> >> Good morning list.Anyone have any tatahouine  available?Say in the 10 to 20  
>gram
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  range and could give me a good deal?
> >>   Steve R.Arnold,  Chicago!
> >>      
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