[meteorite-list] Try divining rods over a large iron

Richard Montgomery rickmont at earthlink.net
Wed Oct 13 22:47:14 EDT 2010


Phil, good one, as we embark upon the unkown in the philisophic....List, 
allow me to share my simplistic view:  as a human, I can't possibly explain 
what I'm not capable of explaining, (and will take the bold step here to 
include the brightest among us: thanks you guys and gals with the knowledge 
and credentials to keep probing, publishing, questioning and postulating, 
discovering and debating, concluding and questioning)...   Isn't this why we 
explore and explain within scientific context?   Until we become the 
inventer of the Universe, we remain students of discovery.  Humble pie!


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Subject: [meteorite-list] Try divining rods over a large iron


> Either that, or as Albert thought, the central tenet, the core belief in 
> randomness that lays the foundation of quantum mechanics is wrong. When Al 
> says that He doesn't throw dice, he's expressing a disbelief in the 
> randomness of the universe. He's echoing the teleological beliefs of 
> Aristotle and Plato, who thought there may be a purpose to the universe. 
> Modern science is in the grip of Democritus and Epicurus who believed in a 
> strictly materialist, reductionist view of the meaninglessness and random 
> nature of the universe. Science can explain the what and the how, but is 
> at a loss to explain the why.  The new quantum theory of randomness did 
> not explain the secrets of the orderly Newtonian world to Albert. If the 
> universe is random, then why is it so orderly and predictable? I think 
> Einstein is right in this case. I know he goofed on the cosmological 
> constant kerfuffle, but really, who are we to judge one of the greatest 
> scientific minds of our time?
> ---------------------------
> Phil Whitmer
> ---------------------------
>
> On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 20:38:52 -0400, you wrote:
>
>
>>I know very well that many scientists consider dowsing as a type of
>
>>superstition. According to my conviction this is, however, unjustified. 
>>The
>
>>dowsing rod is a simple instrument which shows the reaction of the human
>
>>nervous system to certain factors which are unknown to us at this time.
>
>>- Albert Einstein
>
>
> Quantum mechanics is certainly imposing. But an inner voice tells me that 
> it is
> not yet the real thing. The theory says a lot, but does not really bring 
> us any
> closer to the secret of the "old one." I, at any rate, am convinced that 
> He does
> not throw dice.
> -Albert Einstein
> (Just in case the jab wasn't obvious, Einstein was wrong.)
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