[meteorite-list] nwa 5400 pairing to nwa 5363
Richard Kowalski
damoclid at yahoo.com
Fri Oct 1 21:57:46 EDT 2010
Excellent, and excellent news.
--
Richard Kowalski
Full Moon Photography
IMCA #1081
--- On Fri, 10/1/10, Norbert Classen <riffraff at timewarp.de> wrote:
> From: Norbert Classen <riffraff at timewarp.de>
> Subject: [meteorite-list] RE: nwa 5400 pairing to nwa 5363
> To: "'habibi abdelaziz'" <azizhabibi at yahoo.com>, "'meteorite list'" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Date: Friday, October 1, 2010, 3:34 PM
> Hi Aziz, and All,
>
> Yes, I can confirm that I received all the data from Dr.
> Jambon in the
> meantime, including the O-isotope data, and there seems to
> be no doubt that
> NWA 5400 and the stone classified by Dr. Jambon (NWA 5363)
> are actually
> paired. The O-isotope ratios plot very close to the TFL
> (terrestrial
> fractionation line), and the mineral compositions for
> olivine, orthopyroxene
> and clinopyroxene do also match closely.
>
> Thanks to Dr. Jambon for providing these data.
>
> Kind regards,
> Norbert Classen
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>
> hi all,
>
> albert wrote today to me.
> he said,
> '''''''''''''''''''''''''
>
> I did write to Norbert. He has the data now. .
>
> """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
>
> thanks albert for your effort and your help ; and thanks
> norbert for helping
> this issue to move on to the good way.
> do we have this data now
> all the best
>
> aziz habibi
>
>
> > ----- Message transféré ---- De : Norbert Classen
> <riffraff at timewarp.de>
> À
> :
> >habibi abdelaziz <azizhabibi at yahoo.com>;
> meteorite list
> ><meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Envoyé le : Mer 29 septembre
> >2010, 23h 11min 20s Objet : AW: [meteorite-list] nwa
> 5400 pairing to
> >nwa 5363 Dear Aziz & All, You wrote: > he said
> too that he has given
> >all the data that confirm > the pairing including
> the isotope to
> >norbert classen in > end june where they talk abaout
> this and as i
> >asked him > to do so. Maybe there's a slight
> misunderstanding here. I
> >actually emailed with Dr. Jambon in June, and we also
> intended to meet
> >at the Ste. Marie Show at the end of June where Dr.
> Jambon wanted to
> >show me all the data (including the O-isotope data).
> However,
> >unfortunatelly we missed each other at the show, and so
> the meeting
> >didn't take place. Don't get me wrong, I have no reason
> to doubt Dr.
> >Jambon's word on this - I just wanted to get the facts
> straight. Maybe
> >you misunderstood Dr. Jambon? But up to this day I
> haven't seen the
> >O-isotope data for NWA 5363. All I have seen is a
> writeup on NWA 5363
> >which didn't include the O-isotope data. Again, that
> doesn't mean much,
> >and I'm also looking forward to the official
> publication of NWA 5363.
> >This will hopefully answer all the questions. We all
> need to remember
> >that meteorite classification (including the voting
> process on new
> >meteorites at the NomCom of the Meteoritical Society)
> takes time. So we
> >as collectors should, IMHO, be patient, and wait with
> conclusions until
> >the scientific work has been done and published. All
> the best, Norbert
> >-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- hi all and i m happy
> that this issue
> >is becoming a very polit and civilised discussion; well
> 3 months that i
> >do not want to get caught inside this discussion any
> more, but well
> >this is becoming repeated to a point that we forget
> what the debat is
> >about, for nwa 5363; i get a talk on albert jambon
> mobile , i asked him
> >that many dealers or collectors still think that nwa
> 5400 is not paired
> >to nwa 5363 and he answered me this. he said that he
> have submited to
> >the nomcom all the information, and he coudln't have
> said that they are
> >paired if he haven't done isotope so clearly he
> indicate that he has
> >done isotope and have submited them to the nomcom dr
> wisberg or so ,
> >its on the phone. and he said he is surprised why the
> nomcom didn't
> >pubilsh them yet, he said too that he has given all the
> data that
> >confirm the pairing including the isotope to norbert
> classen in end
> >june where they talk abaout this and as i asked him to
> do so. so i ask
> >here do we have any guy from the nomcom here , please
> end this torture
> >and tell us if you have this data or not,and why you
> didn't publish
> >them. thanks aziz habibi
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