[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET? - NOT!!

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Sat May 22 18:56:07 EDT 2010


Seeing things is NOT science!   You  must fight the temptation.  The wind 
blown surface of Mars is likely to  have many odd looking things.

In my micrographs I often see some weird  looking things.  Last night I saw 
a Scotty Dog.

Many other people  see things in my images (such as the blood vessels in 
Mars rocks guy).  So  many that I put this disclaimer on my micrograph 
gallery. These people are an  embarrassment that no scientist or scientific minded 
person wants to be  associated with.

My gallery can be found at   
http://www.meteorite.com/meteorite-gallery/meteorites-alpha_frame.htm



Welcome  to the Tom Phillips Meteorite Micrograph Gallery!

This gallery contains  microscopic images of meteorites.

While it is tempting to read into what  you might think you see, I have 
never found any evidence of past life or any  thing supernatural. I have read 
claims by people using my images to support  their ideas, theories and 
dogmas. The claims of muscle fibers and other  animal/people parts are the easiest 
to disprove as the size scale is off. Many  meteorites have various forms 
of barred chondrules which may be large or quite  small, almost fiber 
looking. These are not biological in nature. I can and have  found strikingly 
similar looking structures in fresh volcanic rock.

The  claims involving faith and much harder to address. All I can say is I 
have noted  no messages or hidden symbolism in any of my images. 

My images combine  some science and some art. I am concentrating on the 
visually pleasing. What  that means is I am often working with magnifications 
much higher than what is  typically useful in optical meteorite 
classification examinations and as such,  my images look "Different" than what many are 
accustomed to. This puts me in the  position of being sensitive to outrageous 
claims involving my images. I am  careful to say only what is accurate and 
I generally avoid analysis. I give the  meteorite name, type of material, 
magnification or field of view and the  microscope technique.

If you see any thing more than meteorite structures  in any of these 
images, have fun! But remember, this is no more scientific or  spiritual than 
seeing dogs in clouds.

Tom Phillips

In a message  dated 5/22/2010 3:44:30 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, 
balisterjames at att.net  writes:
Remember that research was 10 years ago!  But yes I have also  used the new 
higher res pics.  I found about 100 on that.  Also  remember what I said, 
that some will be able to see them and some will  not!  But none the less 
they are there!   There are pictures  composed of dots etc ( I forgot the name 
for it)  That work the same  way.  You look at it and see nothing then 
suddenly a bird pops into  view!  The trick there is to put the pic close to your 
nose then back  off.  Why don't you try that with my pics?  Step back and 
you might  see them!  And since they are up close already that might be the 
best  approach.  


----- Original Message ----
> From: Elizabeth  Warner <ewarner at umd.edu>
> To: "meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com"  
<meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010  3:14:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?  - NOT!!
> 
> Because you are using low res images from the Viking  Mission!! Have you 
gone 
> back and looked at the Mars images taken by the  myriad new/current 
missions that 
> have much higher  resolution??

And I did look at the pictures but saw 
> nothing,  absolutely nothing of what you described.

Again, it is extremely 
>  easy to misinterpret shadows, particularly when you are zooming in on a 
low res,  
> grainy image. The human mind likes patterns and will find patterns. And  
no 
> matter how well you train your mind, you will be susceptible to  optical 
> illusions.
http://www.moillusions.com/  (the last video  on the page, 
> Wow!)
http://www.michaelbach.de/ot/

For example,  you interpret deep 
> shadows as being entryways, etc. But, those Viking  pics didn't exactly 
have the 
> greatest dynamic range. They're just  shadows from boulders.

Look, it 
> would be uber cool to see   incontrovertible proof, but the examples you 
> provide don't even come  close. If you are going to insist that there are 
> buildings on Mars, you  should at least catch up on the times and use the 
most 
> recent  images!

Clear Skies!
Elizabeth

James Balister 
>  wrote:
> Mike, good idea!  But this posting is not about the 
>  book.  It is about the Mars structures.  They are real!  But no  
> one, even here with inteligent higher then most places seems to  care.  
No 
> one even made mention of the pictures.  They can  only dwell on the 
> book.  Are they scared to face the fact that  there are buildings on 
> Mars?  Or is every one blind to it?   Reminds me of the three 
> monkeys.  One had his eyes covered, one  his mouth, and one his ears.  
> Like in the movie The Planet of the  Apes.  
> 
> 
> ----- 
> Original Message  ----
>> From: Michael Fowler <> ymailto="mailto:mqfowler at mac.com"  
> href="mailto:mqfowler at mac.com">mqfowler at mac.com>
>> To:  > ymailto="mailto:meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com" 
>  
href="mailto:meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com">meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>  
> Cc: Michael Fowler <>  href="mailto:mqfowler at mac.com">mqfowler at mac.com>
>> Sent: Sat,  
> May 22, 2010 11:26:28 AM
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars  Odyssey 
> THEMIS Images: ET?
>> 
>>> I forgot to  mention----Someone 
> thought that 19 bucks was too high for a  
>> fiction book.  They 
> sell for 25 bucks on  average.  And we all know what meteorite books 
> run!  I bought  a book last year that ran me 100 bucks!  So I think 19 
> is not too  bad for a book! 
> 
>> From: James Balister 
>  <balisterjames at > href="http://att.net">>  
href="http://att.net">att.net
> 
> 
> James,
>  
> 
> $19 may seem 
>> reasonable to you, but your sales  figures 
> speak volumes.  Apparently no one wants to gamble $19 on  an unknown 
author 
> who can't spell.
> 
> Maybe you  
>> should lower the price 
> to stimulate demand.  If you  lower it enough, maybe people will take a 
> chance.  Wouldn't you  rather have 5,000 sales at $2.00 a copy instead of 
> none at $19 bucks a  copy?
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Mike 
> 
>>  Fowler
> Chicago
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