[meteorite-list] The Sniper Mentality

Thu Mar 18 01:13:53 EDT 2010

Hi Tom,

Tom, really..... As for "the insult", who did I insult? I remember saying that people are getting ripped off if they use a sniper company to bid for them, cause the last time I check, eBay does that for you automatically till they reach your maximum bid. And that's how it works on eBay, i f yooooou biiiiiiid the hiiiiiighes TOM............. You win the item. But again, who am I you said yourself, 

"So first you lay down a stupid insult and then you follow it up with Yoda 
wisdom?" Tom your giving me a goooood laugh with the end at the end of your statement with the question mark.  

Any whos have a great night Tom LOL 

[meteorite-list] The Sniper Mentality
Starsinthedirt at aol.com Starsinthedirt at aol.com 
Thu Mar 18 00:42:00 EDT 2010 

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First you say "All I know is that people that use sniper programs are 
getting ripped off 
because eBay does the same thing for free." 

Shawn Alan 

Then you say "So the morel to the story is, if you want the item, then 
you will do anything to get it. If this means you wait to the last seconds 
to bid, or hire a third party to bid for you, or put a max bid in a day 
before the bid ends, you do what ever it takes :) But at the end of the day 
what comes down to it is who placed the highest bid in the allotted time. " 

Shawn Alan 

So first you lay down a stupid insult and then you follow it up with Yoda 
wisdom? 

Tom 

In a message dated 3/17/2010 10:31:00 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, 
photophlow at yahoo.com writes: 
Hello list again, 

I have been bidding and watching an item on eBay for the past few days and 
I wish I had gotton the 46g Norton Meteorite at $600 or so but that wasn't 
the case. Before I went down in the subway to go home I got on my phone to 
watch the clock tick on the eBay item I was wishing I could get but I knew 
It wasn't going to happen. 

As the clock went down the price stayed steady for the remaining 4 
minutes. But it wasn't till the last few seconds that the price went from $800 to 
$850 and I thought to myself, WOW the winner is going to make a killing. In 
the back of my head I was wishing I was him/her but I don't have the 
leisure to spend that much on a meteorite. But when I thought it was over it 
wasn't and when the clock stopped the auction was over and the winning bidder 
got the Norton County meteorite at $1,225 not to mention its from Dr LaPaz 
estate, what a deal. Here is a link of the auction..... 

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=230447906846&showauto=t 
rue 

At any rate the winner got a great meteorite and did it smart. If I had 
money and I knew I would do anything to get it, I would place my bid at 
$3000, that's a guaranty that I would get, but again, it could lead to high 
costs if I have someone else that wants it more then me. 

So the morel to the story is, if you want the item, then you will do 
anything to get it. If this means you wait to the last seconds to bid, or hire a 
third party to bid for you, or put a max bid in a day before the bid ends, 
you do what ever it takes :) But at the end of the day what comes down to 
it is who placed the highest bid in the allotted time. 

Shawn Alan 

[meteorite-list] The Sniper Mentality 
Richard Kowalski damoclid at yahoo.com 
Wed Mar 17 19:58:00 EDT 2010 

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This mentality, waiting until the last few seconds before bidding, is 
something I just don't get. Maybe someone can explain it to me. 

I bid for lots on ebay just like I do when I bid at a real auction. I set 
in my head what I believe the value of an item and what I have available in 
my budget to bid for that item. I then bid that much and no more. If I get 
the item, great. If not, someone wanted it more and we're willing to pay 
more for the item... 

While I will sometimes raise my ebay bid a little before the end of the 
auction, I really don't understand the idea of sitting there and in the last 
second or two, to try to jam in bids high enough to win the item. 

Do snipers really want the item or are they just trying to screw others 
out of the item? Are they just trying to get the item at a lower price, 
thinking that their competitors will just rebid again, upping the price? 

I see this on meteorite auctions every so often, but much more often on 
the Daguerreotypes I bid on. The reason I was reminded of it was a lot I just 
lost out on. There wasn't just one sniper, but two. The both bid at the 
exact same time, 2 seconds before the auction ended... 

As I said, it doesn't mater that I lost the lot. It went for more than I 
was willing to pay, so I wouldn't have rebid even if I could. 

Possibly someone can explain what is gained by bidding like this instead 
of just bidding what you think it's worth and letting it go for that... 

I'd really like to see ebay eliminate this foolery. It'd be pretty simple. 
Any bids that occur within one minute of the closing time of the auction 
automatically resets the end time by 10 minutes, or 30 minutes. The snipers 
games are eliminated and the dealers (and ebay) gets more profits because 
the auction remains open for the bidding to continue to higher levels. Just 
like in a real live auction. 

Thanks 

-- 
Richard Kowalski 
Full Moon Photography 
IMCA #1081 

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