[meteorite-list] It is a sad day.....

Darryl Pitt darryl at dof3.com
Tue Mar 9 13:03:04 EST 2010



Many countries have what are referred to loosely as "Antiquity &  
National Heritage Acts" and this is modeled after the same.   Simply  
expressed, a wide net is being cast, and it's not a novel idea for  
meteorites to be viewed as part of a nation's heritage.

I hope Jeff Grossman's idea is embraced---which happens to be in the  
pocket of the work Svend and others have already embarked upon.


All best / Darryl




On Mar 9, 2010, at 11:34 AM, Adam Hupe wrote:

> I cannot understand how a meteorite can be considered an antique  
> when most terrestrial rocks could be called the same thing. The only  
> way to get a rock that is not an antique is to live near a  
> productive volcano where you can retrieve a freshly created one like  
> in Hawaii.  A meteorite has no scientific importance whatsover if it  
> is left on the ground to weather away, especially in Oregon and  
> Washington where the climate is very destructive.
>
> Why all of this new interest in meteorites when only a handful have  
> ever been found in Oregon and Washington?  Why are old laws being  
> twisted to include meteorites? Why waste the time creating an entry  
> on a website protecting meteorites where very few have been found?   
> It would be interesting to find out what parties are involved with  
> the twisting of these laws and admonish them for being stupid.   
> Maybe they were influenced by the media who overstate the monetary  
> value and understate the scientific importance of these objects. You  
> treat something like valuable treasure and the government will do  
> the same.  Everybody wants a piece of the pie whether they have  
> earned it or not.  I believe in the finders/keepers concept that has  
> worked well for centuries.  A meteorite is worthless until found!
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Adam
>
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks <meteoritemike at gmail.com>
> To: valparint at aol.com
> Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Sent: Tue, March 9, 2010 6:18:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] It is a sad day.....
>
> Hi List,
>
> I think this is a lot of worry and noise over nothing.  The only thing
> that has changed with this announcement is a block of text on a
> website.
>
> How a law is worded, versus how it is enforced are two different  
> things.
>
> It's illegal to keep arrowheads you find in Florida, yet almost every
> local down here has some in a drawer or box.  My grandfather (a highly
> decorated WWII veteran and all around great person) was quite proud of
> his arrowheads and I'd like to see some LEO try to take them from him.
>
> I don't think this wording change on a website is going to mean much
> in the long run.  It just means we are going to hear more
> conversations like this one :
>
> BLM officer : Where did you get that rock that looks like a meteorite?
>
> Met Hunter : Oh that?  I brought that with me from home, it's a good
> luck charm.  But it's not working today because I didn't find
> anything.
>
> -----------
>
> Or  -
>
> Met Buyer : Where did you say you found this meteorite again?
>
> Met Hunter/Seller : I didn't, because I can't remember where I found
> it.  It's the funniest thing, because I know I found it, but I don't
> remember where or when.  I really need to stop sniffing glue before I
> forget where all of these specimens came from.
>
> -----------------
>
> Don't you just love it when a government that murdered thousands of
> indigenous people and stole this land from the native American
> indians, now tries to dictate about theft and property?
>
> Message from this tax payer - hey government, you can make demands
> about meteorites when you give back the Indians' land you stole.  It's
> very hypocritical to claim that meteorite hunters are stealing from
> federal land, when that federal land was stolen by the government from
> it's rightful owners.
>
> I don't take orders from a government that hands out small-pox
> infected blankets to women and children. (or funds the School of the
> Americas)
>
> -------------------
>
> See yall out on the dry lake beds soon. ;)
>
> Best regards,
>
> MikeG
>
>
>
> On 3/9/10, valparint at aol.com <valparint at aol.com> wrote:
>> I'll give up my meteorites when they pry them from my cold, dead  
>> fingers.
>>
>> Paul Swartz
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