[meteorite-list] "The Bankrupter Stone" - Was Hammer Question

[Starsinthedirt at aol.com]

When I saw this subject line "The bankrupter  stone", I immediately thought 
of the rare material finds that certain people  have attempted to 
monopolize (Such as the early days of the Aubrite/EL6/EL7/EL3  NWA's 2965/2828/ Al 
Haggounia etc.)  When it turned out the finds were BIG,  they got burned.

Has any one really lost a lot of money in such a  gamble?  

Tom

In a message dated 6/16/2010 12:27:20 P.M.  Mountain Daylight Time, 
star_wars_collector at yahoo.com writes:
Perhaps I will  coin the term "bankrupter stone" that will help.

A "Bankrupter stone" is  one that hits a person, animal or object of value, 
then costs the buyer of said  stone to empty out what they have in the bank 
to buy it.

TO qualify for  such a grand title, the meteorite must do major damage to a 
person, animal or  man made object that is not able to continue to perform 
duties like it did prior  to the impact. 

See Claxton and Peekskill for examples of "Bankrupter  stones"

Hope everyone is doing good today!


Greg  Catterton
www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
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--- On Wed, 6/16/10,  Richard Kowalski <damoclid at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Richard  Kowalski <damoclid at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hammer  Question
> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Date:  Wednesday, June 16, 2010, 2:10 PM
> Hey Eric,
> 
> I think you  and I are looking at this question coming from
> rather different  directions.
> 
> Your post is about valuation of hammers, and my  post is
> about a definition, a subject which you kind of give  short
> shrift to by saying we could get too "anal"ytical about.
>  
> To me, the thing that gets hammered, is irrelevant if the
>  definition is so broad as to be nearly meaningless. To also
> include all  the stones in a fall as part of a "hammer fall"
> seems ridiculously  broad, to me that is. 100,000 stones
> fall, but a single 1g frag bounces  against barn, so all the
> other 99,999 have been made "more special" in  some way?
> 
> If that's what some collectors believe, that's fine  with
> me. Again, that isn't my area of collecting.
> 
> I  agree it is up to the collector to place a value on the
> hammer,  depending on what object was struck, where it was
> located, and the story  and or media coverage about the
> strike, but that is a different topic.  One of valuation, not
> the definition of what a hammer is.
>  
> 
> --
> Richard Kowalski
> Full Moon  Photography
> IMCA #1081are hammers. That to me is not
> > really  a question.
> > 
> > The question is how much more is a hammer  stone
> "worth" if
> > it hit a shed (regardless of building  materials)
> versus it
> > hitting a dirt road or even a paved  road.  Colletors
> > will probably not care much if it hits a road  unless
> there's
> > history surrounding it. Now, if the hammer  in question
> hits
> > a mailbox, then it's probably "worth" what  someone
> will pay
> > for it. Simple.
> > 
> >  It would be up to the dealer who sells the meteorite
> as a
> >  hammer as long as he/she explains what the "hammer
> stone"
> >  impacted and the circumstances surrounding it, and
> then only
>  > if the the dealer is honest with the collector/buyer,
> and
>  > the collector/buyer chooses to spend more on it
> because it
>  > hit something man-made would it be worth more.
> > 
> >  If being a hammer stone means a meteorite was worth
> less no
> >  one would care what constitutes a hammer.
> > 
> > The  valuation is the degree of perceived importance.
> > 
> >  Regards,
> > Eric Wichman
> > Meteorites USA
> >  www.meteoritesusa.com
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > On 6/15/2010 11:52 PM, Shawn Alan wrote:
>  > > Hello Listers,
> > > 
> > > Now I have a good  question about hammer
> meteorite
> > falls. It is said that a  meteorite fall is a hammer
> fall if
> > it hits something that  is man made. Now if a meteorite
> lands
> > on the surface of a  serviced dirt road, a road made by
> man
> > from dirt, rocks,  oil to coat the road, or other
> processes
> > to maintain the  dirt road, wouldn't that constitute as
> being
> > a hammer  fall?
> > > 
> > > Shawn Alan
> > > IMCA  1633
> > > eBaystore
> > >  
http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p4340
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