[meteorite-list] Meteorites as Ammunition

dave carothers carothersdl at gmail.com
Wed Jul 28 02:53:21 EDT 2010


I never saw the movie, but there are plenty of historical references to 
cannoneers using scrap of all kinds (metal, glass, rocks, gravel, lengths of 
chain, etc.).  The common "commercially-made" equivalent ammunition was 
grapeshot and canister rounds.  Getting hit with grapeshot or a canister 
round would definitely make your eyes water.

Dave

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Greg Hupe" <gmhupe at htn.net>
To: "dave carothers" <carothersdl at gmail.com>; <countdeiro at earthlink.net>; 
"bill kies" <parkforestmet at hotmail.com>; <meteoritemike at gmail.com>
Cc: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 2:33 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites as Ammunition


> Wasn't there a scene in 'Pirates of the Caribbean' where the dudes shoved 
> a bunch of metallic objects into the canon and fired it at the opposing 
> ship hitting one of the more hapless pirates in his wooden eye with a 
> fork!
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "dave carothers" <carothersdl at gmail.com>
> To: <countdeiro at earthlink.net>; "bill kies" <parkforestmet at hotmail.com>; 
> <meteoritemike at gmail.com>
> Cc: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 2:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites as Ammunition
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>
>> It wouldn't be practical to melt meteorites to make musket balls.  That's
>> not to say that iron meteorites couldn't be used as ammunition just as 
>> they
>> are.  The blunderbuss had a large enough bore and muzzle to accpt smaller
>> meteorites as is.  In fact it wasn't uncommon for users of the 
>> blunderbuss
>> to load it with rocks, nails, and anythnig else that happened to be 
>> around.
>> Same with canons.
>>
>> Dave
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: <countdeiro at earthlink.net>
>> To: "bill kies" <parkforestmet at hotmail.com>; <meteoritemike at gmail.com>
>> Cc: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 1:51 AM
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites as Ammunition
>>
>>
>>> Bill says "...just about any firearm".
>>>
>>> Just about any muzzle loader with a patched round can eat balls made of
>>> meteorite material, or anything else for that matter. It wouldn't 
>>> surprise
>>> me if we learned that some enterprising conquistador had heated up some
>>> Campo and used the balls in his matchlock..or a canon.
>>>
>>> Does anyone care to expound on what temp one would have to heat an iron
>>> meteorite to be able to pour the melt into a mold to make a musket ball?
>>> Could different classes of irons have different melt temperatures? Would
>>> inclusions be easily seperated?
>>>
>>> Count Deiro
>>> IMCA 3536
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>From: bill kies <parkforestmet at hotmail.com>
>>>>Sent: Jul 27, 2010 5:33 PM
>>>>To: meteoritemike at gmail.com
>>>>Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>>>Subject: [meteorite-list]  Meteorites as Ammunition
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Projectiles made from meteoric iron and it's related inclusions would
>>>>destroy the barrel of just about any firearm.
>>>>
>>>>Bill
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Hi Count and List,
>>>>I wonder, has anyone ever fashioned bullets out of iron meteorites?
>>>>Best regards,
>>>>MikeG
>>>>
>>>>On 7/27/10, countdeiro at earthlink.net <countdeiro at earthlink.net>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>> Attention List!
>>>>> meteoritemike at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>> Aliens have developed a reliable source of weapons grade meteorites 
>>>>> and
>>>>> a
>>>>> reliable targeting system. However, it can be defeated if one remains
>>>>> indoors.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/835482-man-hit-by-six-meteorites-is-being-targeted-by-aliens
>>>>>
>>>>> Count Deiro
>>>>> IMCA 3536
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