[meteorite-list] LOST CITY-first meteorite fall to be photographedin the USA :) correct link

Shawn Alan photophlow at yahoo.com
Sun Jul 25 14:09:05 EDT 2010


Hello AL and Listers
 
This is a re-post cause the link I provided to Michael's website which clearly shows that hes selling LOST CITY on his website as the first meteorite fall to be photographed was pasted incorrectly, here is the new one that works.
 
http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/LostCity2_668RBox.jpg
 
 
AL Mitterling :) 

I like how you say I put words in peoples mouths, really? AL I think you might want to examine what you post and practice what you preach before you accuse me of putting words in peoples mouths. See the problem is AL, the thing that I like about science is that we deduce a conclusion through empirical evidence. Now I find it odd that the one photograph that Mr. Charles M. Brown took with his Kodak Brownie in New Mexico in 1933 shows the smoke tail of the meteor to be warped from atmospheric winds, http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1934PA.....42..291N . AL that is a very strong indication that is an image of the result of the meteor in flight and not an actual image of the meteor in flight due to the smoke tail warping, empirical science ROKS :) 

AL now you know what I find that is even more odd is that Michael Blood is selling two Lost City meteorites and if you take a look at one of the meteorite he has on his website :) http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/LostCity2_668RBox.jpg the ID card that he has with the meteorite clearly states that Lost City is the first meteorite fall to be photographer in USA. I find that Michael's earlier statement quote un quote....... 

" However, I think 
what you meant to say is that it was the first found due to photographing 
the bolide. 
The bolide of Pasamonte was photographed in 1933. 
Best wishes, Michael" 

...... contradicts what he is selling on his website from his previous post and clearly shows hes selling Lost City as the first meteorite fall to be photographed in USA. Empirical evidence is grand, have a great day AL :) 

Shawn Alan 
IMCA 1633 
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[meteorite-list] LOST CITY-first meteorite fall to be photographedin the USA :)
Shawn Alan photophlow at yahoo.com 
Sun Jul 25 13:58:40 EDT 2010 

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AL Mitterling :) 

I like how you say I put words in peoples mouths, really? AL I think you might want to examine what you post and practice what you preach before you accuse me of putting words in peoples mouths. See the problem is AL, the thing that I like about science is that we deduce a conclusion through empirical evidence. Now I find it odd that the one photograph that Mr. Charles M. Brown took with his Kodak Brownie in New Mexico in 1933 shows the smoke tail of the meteor to be warped from atmospheric winds, http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1934PA.....42..291N . AL that is a very strong indication that is an image of the result of the meteor in flight and not an actual image of the meteor in flight due to the smoke tail warping, empirical science ROKS :) 

AL now you know what I find that is even more odd is that Michael Blood is selling two Lost City meteorites and if you take a look at one of the meteorite he has on his website :) http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/LostCity2_668RBox.jpg the ID card that he has with the meteorite clearly states that Lost City is the first meteorite fall to be photographer in USA. I find that Michael's earlier statement quote un quote....... 

" However, I think 
what you meant to say is that it was the first found due to photographing 
the bolide. 
The bolide of Pasamonte was photographed in 1933. 
Best wishes, Michael" 

...... contradicts what he is selling on his website from his previous post and clearly shows hes selling Lost City as the first meteorite fall to be photographed in USA. Empirical evidence is grand, have a great day AL :) 

Shawn Alan 
IMCA 1633 
eBaystore: 
http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p4340 












[meteorite-list] LOST CITY-first meteorite fall to be photographedin the USA :) 
al mitt almitt at kconline.com 
Sun Jul 25 08:20:53 EDT 2010 

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Greetings Shawn, 

I like how you always like to twist things around, put words into peoples 
mouths so you are always right Shawn. The Pasamonte is one remarkable photo 
of a meteor exploding in flight. It isn't taken after the fact regardless of 
how you want to twist it. Michael is right. 

When you post inaccurate comments on this list, some people may thing your 
right which create the problem of setting it straight in the future. 

I look forward to your twisting my message around. 

--AL Mitterling 



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Shawn Alan" <photophlow at yahoo.com> 
To: <mlblood at cox.net> 
Cc: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> 
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 12:02 AM 
Subject: [meteorite-list] LOST CITY-first meteorite fall to be 
photographedin the USA :) 


Hi Michael, 

Thank you for your insight :) I did some research and found some articles 
and was able to find an image taken by Mr. Charles M. Brown with his Kodak 
Brownie . From what I can tell from the image its a photograph of the effect 
of a meteor in flight showing the smoke tail which can be seen that the 
image was taken after the fact of the meteor in flight in New Mexico, 1933. 
Click http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1934PA.....42..291N on the link and you 
can see that the photograph used in the paper shows the meteors smoke tail 
warping due to winds in the upper atmosphere. That would be an indication 
that the meteor was out of the frame when the photograph was taken. Also 
reports said that morning the sky had been covered with clouds in New 
Mexico. But again I see no evidence of a photograph to show the meteor in 
the frame like how you can see in Lost City :) 

Lost City on the other hand is the first meteorite fall to be photographed 
to actually document the meteor in flight, click on this link and see the 
difference 
http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/L/Lost_City_meteorite.html 


True there has been many meteors photographed but Lost City is the first 
meteorite fall to be photographed which shows the meteor in flight. A 
meteorite fall cant be a meteorite fall till its found? I can see what your 
comment means, but from the image I saw that Mr. Charles M. Brown took with 
his Kodak Brownie that morning shows no indication of the meteor, only the 
effect of what a meteor does in flight aka smoke tail where one can see the 
tail warping due to upper atmosphere winds. 

The first meteorite fall to be photographed which shows the meteor in flight 
is Pribram. I would love to get my hands on that stuff. 

Shawn Alan 
IMCA 1633 
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[meteorite-list] LOST CITY 
Michael Blood mlblood at cox.net 
Sat Jul 24 21:45:01 EDT 2010 

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Hi Shawn, 
I am sure it was an oversight, but all your Lost City aeBay ads 
state it was the first fall to be photographed in the US. However, I think 
what you meant to say is that it was the first found due to photographing 
the bolide. 
The bolide of Pasamonte was photographed in 1933. 
Best wishes, Michael 


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