[meteorite-list] [IMCA] Warning, Warning tri-ball34

Jason Utas meteoritekid at gmail.com
Sun Dec 19 23:18:53 EST 2010 

To make things more interesting -
tri-ball34 just got a lot of positive feedback from a seller.
All relatively inexpensive small NWAs.
Jason


On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 8:13 PM, Yinan Wang <veomega at gmail.com> wrote:
> Lets see if these links come through:
>
> Here is the bid cancellation form for sellers:
> http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?CancelBidShow
>
> There is also a block bidder form but its very individual so I'm not
> sure I can successfully load the link. Go to ebay, click Help- Help
> Topics, and follow links to the block bidder list.
>
>
> -YvW
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Ed Deckert <edeckert at triad.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>> I was under the impression that an ebay seller can cancel a bid while the
>> auction
>> is still active, and then block the buyer whose bid he canceled.  (If the
>> seller knows enough to look for him, that is.)
>>
>> Anyone know anything about doing that?
>>
>> Ed Deckert
>> IMCA #8911
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stuart McDaniel"
>> <actionshooting at carolina.rr.com>
>> To: "Richard Montgomery" <rickmont at earthlink.net>; "Gary Fujihara"
>> <fujmon at mac.com>; "MeteorList" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>> Cc: <imca at imcamail.de>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 9:46 PM
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] Warning, Warning tri-ball34
>>
>>
>>> I have an idea that may help...............................what about if
>>> you see this 1**a has bid on something, use the function to ask the seller a
>>> question that get's added to the description of the ad warning them of this
>>> guy? There ia a way that it will show up in the description and maybe the
>>> seller can end the auction early.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Richard Montgomery
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 9:07 PM
>>> To: Gary Fujihara ; MeteorList
>>> Cc: imca at imcamail.de
>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] Warning, Warning tri-ball34
>>>
>>> Thanks to the List...I've just blocked this a-hole (thanks Don M for the
>>> link) ...also went and looked at Lucyfi's Seymchan thin-slice (awesome, I
>>> might add) and sure enough 1***a won it.  I tried writing her through
>>> MyEbay-ask-seller link to give her a heads-up, but couldn't.
>>>
>>> Isn't this a crime?  Or are all the warnings posted to bidders re: "you
>>> are
>>> entering into a binding contract" just a bunch of hooooey?  One would
>>> think
>>> eBay's downside about fraud-buyers would have some sort of legal team to
>>> support their very existence.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Fujihara" <fujmon at mac.com>
>>> To: "MeteorList" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>> Cc: <imca at imcamail.de>
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 4:21 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] Warning, Warning tri-ball34
>>>
>>>
>>>> Aloha,
>>>>
>>>> Buyers need to beware of tri-ball34 too, as he is continuing to bid up
>>>> items on ebay even as i write this.  He has won 2 more items and his carnage
>>>> amounts to 180 items won in the last 30 days.
>>>>
>>>> You can identify this person as a bidder on an item by clicking on the
>>>> Bid History link on a listing, which will bring up a list of bids, with the
>>>> bidder ID scrambled with asterisks.  Don Skidmore informs me that tri-ball34
>>>> is member ID l***a
>>>>
>>>> Buyers, if you see l***a in the bid history of an item, you'd be advised
>>>> not to bid on the item lest you get into a bid war with him that you
>>>> probably will not win.  And even if you do, it would be so highly inflated
>>>> as to be ridiculously expensive.  Caveat emptor.
>>>>
>>>> gary
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 19, 2010, at 1:55 PM, Warren Sansoucie wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>
>>>>> The Sellers of the items will be able to report him through the
>>>>> resolution center. I have had to do this over a different seller. eBay will
>>>>> revoke his account once the proper channels are followed.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is sad. To me, it would seem this is someone with a desire to attack
>>>>> only IMCA members. Does anyone know if a non-member has had this issue?
>>>>>
>>>>> Warren Sansoucie
>>>>> IMCA 3174
>>>>> St. Louis MO
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 15:11:32 -0800
>>>>>> From: star_wars_collector at yahoo.com
>>>>>> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com; fujmon at mac.com;
>>>>>> m_graul at yahoo.de
>>>>>> CC: imca at imcamail.de
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [IMCA] [meteorite-list] Warning, Warning tri-ball34
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, he tripled the price the Sylacauga would have sold for...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Member Id: l***a ( 4 ) US $150.00
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Member Id: l***a ( 4 ) US $120.00
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Member Id: u***h ( 793 ) US $50.00
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Greg Catterton
>>>>>> www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
>>>>>> IMCA member 4682
>>>>>> On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites
>>>>>> On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --- On Sun, 12/19/10, Mirko Graul <m_graul at yahoo.de> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Mirko Graul <m_graul at yahoo.de>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] Warning, Warning tri-ball34
>>>>>>> To: "MeteorList" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>, "Gary
>>>>>>> Fujihara" <fujmon at mac.com>
>>>>>>> Cc: imca at imcamail.de
>>>>>>> Date: Sunday, December 19, 2010, 6:08 PM
>>>>>>> And now he have won also a slice by
>>>>>>> cometshop:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rt=nc&nma=true&item=360327984789&si=X5WAVEy1HwhgZ2j34Urg68r6Czo%253D&viewitem=
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and a piece of Sylacauga:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rt=nc&nma=true&item=260707431225&si=X5WAVEy1HwhgZ2j34Urg68r6Czo%253D&viewitem=
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is interesting to see ....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best Regards Mirko
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mirko Graul Meteorite
>>>>>>> Quittenring.4
>>>>>>> 16321 Bernau
>>>>>>> GERMANY
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Phone: 0049-1724105015
>>>>>>> E-Mail: m_graul at yahoo.de
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> WEB: www.meteorite-mirko.de
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Member of The Meteoritical Society
>>>>>>> (International Society for Meteoritics and Planetery
>>>>>>> Science)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> IMCA-Member: 2113
>>>>>>> (International Meteorite Collectors Association)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --- Mirko Graul <m_graul at yahoo.de>
>>>>>>> schrieb am So, 19.12.2010:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Von: Mirko Graul <m_graul at yahoo.de>
>>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: [IMCA] [meteorite-list] Warning, Warning
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> tri-ball34
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> An: "MeteorList" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Gary Fujihara" <fujmon at mac.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> CC: imca at imcamail.de
>>>>>>>> Datum: Sonntag, 19. Dezember, 2010 23:55 Uhr
>>>>>>>> Hi Gary,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wow.....a new piece on the list.
>>>>>>>> Our all friend have won just in this moment a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> expensive
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Seymchan slice.
>>>>>>>> ...bad for the seller.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rt=nc&nma=true&item=260705850283&si=X5WAVEy1HwhgZ2j34Urg68r6Czo%253D&viewitem=
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best regards Mirko
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mirko Graul Meteorite
>>>>>>>> Quittenring.4
>>>>>>>> 16321 Bernau
>>>>>>>> GERMANY
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Phone: 0049-1724105015
>>>>>>>> E-Mail: m_graul at yahoo.de
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> WEB: www.meteorite-mirko.de
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Member of The Meteoritical Society
>>>>>>>> (International Society for Meteoritics and Planetery
>>>>>>>> Science)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> IMCA-Member: 2113
>>>>>>>> (International Meteorite Collectors Association)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --- Gary Fujihara <fujmon at mac.com>
>>>>>>>> schrieb am So, 19.12.2010:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Von: Gary Fujihara <fujmon at mac.com>
>>>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Warning, Warning
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> tri-ball34
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> An: "MeteorList" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>>>>>>>> CC: imca at imcamail.de
>>>>>>>>> Datum: Sonntag, 19. Dezember, 2010 23:46 Uhr
>>>>>>>>> To see the kind of damage this guy
>>>>>>>>> has done, follow this link to see all of the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> auctions
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> tri-ball34 has won over the past 30 days:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidItems&userid=tri-ball34&completed=1&all=1&rows=50&sort=1&_rdc=1
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Those sellers on the list have to report him to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ebay,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> together we may get his account revoked and your
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> listing
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> fees refunded.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> gary
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Dec 19, 2010, at 12:25 PM, Mirko Graul wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Mike,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> yes, I know.
>>>>>>>>>> But the shipping from Germany to the United
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> States is
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> very expensive.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And so do some of the buyers a few days to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> collect
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> pieces.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That is absolutely ok.
>>>>>>>>>> Fortunately, I've blocked him early.
>>>>>>>>>> My auctions end almost every day.
>>>>>>>>>> One would not imagine that this person wins
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> auctions of a full week.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ... then good night Marie...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best regards, Mirko
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mirko Graul Meteorite
>>>>>>>>>> Quittenring.4
>>>>>>>>>> 16321 Bernau
>>>>>>>>>> GERMANY
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 0049-1724105015
>>>>>>>>>> E-Mail: m_graul at yahoo.de
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> WEB: www.meteorite-mirko.de
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Member of The Meteoritical Society
>>>>>>>>>> (International Society for Meteoritics and
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Planetery
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Science)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> IMCA-Member: 2113
>>>>>>>>>> (International Meteorite Collectors
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Association)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --- Michael Gilmer <meteoritemike at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> schrieb am So, 19.12.2010:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Von: Michael Gilmer <meteoritemike at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Warning,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Warning
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> tri-ball34
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> An: "Mirko Graul" <m_graul at yahoo.de>
>>>>>>>>>>> CC: "michael cottingham" <voyagebotanica at hotmail.com>,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com,
>>>>>>>>> raremeteorites at yahoo.com,
>>>>>>>>> "Stuart McDaniel" <actionshooting at carolina.rr.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Datum: Sonntag, 19. Dezember, 2010 23:09
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Uhr
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Besides blocking this clown, one can
>>>>>>>>>>> protect Buy It Now listings by
>>>>>>>>>>> requiring immediate payment. At least
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> way,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> someone can't "win"
>>>>>>>>>>> the item, end the listing, and then not
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> pay.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> With an
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> auction though,
>>>>>>>>>>> the only recourse is to block the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> bidder.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I had a few problems with bidders like
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> when I
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> still selling
>>>>>>>>>>> on eBay. It's especially frustrating
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> you end
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> up being charged
>>>>>>>>>>> for the listing fee and the final value
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> fee,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> payment. You
>>>>>>>>>>> can't get the fees back until you invest
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (i.e.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> money) to
>>>>>>>>>>> file reports and complaints. It's a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> major
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> PITA and
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> part of the reason
>>>>>>>>>>> I quit selling there.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> But I must say, the problems I had were
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> relatively
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> minor
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> and few
>>>>>>>>>>> compared to this "tri-ball" clown.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> glad
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> he never
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> hit me like
>>>>>>>>>>> that. In most cases, I'd finally get
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> paid,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> after
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> weeks of emails and
>>>>>>>>>>> finally filing a complaint. Once the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> unpaid
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> item case
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> is filed, most
>>>>>>>>>>> AWOL buyers who still care about their
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> eBay
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> accounts will
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> usually pay.
>>>>>>>>>>> If you still don't hear from them after
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> filing
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> complaint, then
>>>>>>>>>>> block them with prejudice.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Another thing that is good is posting
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> offender's eBay
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> handle here
>>>>>>>>>>> so the other eBay sellers can be
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> forewarned.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It is
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> obvious that this
>>>>>>>>>>> person is a chronic offender who is not
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> stop their
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> behavior.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> MikeG
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone &
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ironworks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Meteorites
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com
>>>>>>>>>>> Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone
>>>>>>>>>>> News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516
>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone
>>>>>>>>>>> Meteorite Top List - http://meteorite.gotop100.com
>>>>>>>>>>> EOM -
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/19/10, Mirko Graul <m_graul at yahoo.de>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sellers can not give negative
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> feedbacks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ... unfortunately ... I would
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> have done in this
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> case
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards, Mirko
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mirko Graul Meteorite
>>>>>>>>>>>> Quittenring.4
>>>>>>>>>>>> 16321 Bernau
>>>>>>>>>>>> GERMANY
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 0049-1724105015
>>>>>>>>>>>> E-Mail: m_graul at yahoo.de
>>>>>>>>>>>> WEB: www.meteorite-mirko.de
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Member of The Meteoritical Society
>>>>>>>>>>>> (International Society for
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Meteoritics
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Planetery
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Science)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> IMCA-Member: 2113
>>>>>>>>>>>> (International Meteorite Collectors
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Association)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --- Stuart McDaniel <actionshooting at carolina.rr.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> schrieb am So,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 19.12.2010:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Von: Stuart McDaniel <actionshooting at carolina.rr.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Warning,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Warning
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> tri-ball34
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> An: "michael cottingham" <voyagebotanica at hotmail.com>,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> m_graul at yahoo.de,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> raremeteorites at yahoo.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Datum: Sonntag, 19. Dezember,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2010
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 22:50
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Uhr
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Negative feedback also!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: michael cottingham
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 4:46
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: m_graul at yahoo.de
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ; meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ;
>>>>>>>>>>>>> raremeteorites at yahoo.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Warning,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Warning
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> tri-ball34
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> He is a scum bag. Block him,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> report
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> him
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and do
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> whatever you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> can... he cost
>>>>>>>>>>>>> me $500.00. The auctions can be
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> relisted...it is
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> the TIME
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> these people steal
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that can not be recovered.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best Wishes
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Cottingham
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 21:41:46
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> +0000
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: m_graul at yahoo.de
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> raremeteorites at yahoo.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [meteorite-list]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Warning,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Warning
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tri-ball34
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Adam,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yes for the full-time seller
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> is a
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> big
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It costs time and money.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .... but I see I am not
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> alone in
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards, Mirko
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mirko Graul Meteorite
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Quittenring.4
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 16321 Bernau
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GERMANY
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 0049-1724105015
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> E-Mail: m_graul at yahoo.de
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WEB: www.meteorite-mirko.de
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Member of The Meteoritical
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Society
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (International Society for
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Meteoritics
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Planetery
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Science)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IMCA-Member: 2113
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (International Meteorite
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Collectors
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Association)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- Adam Hupe schrieb am
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 19.12.2010:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Von: Adam Hupe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Betreff:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [meteorite-list]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Warning,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Warning
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tri-ball34
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> An: "Adam"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Datum: Sonntag, 19.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dezember,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2010
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 22:30
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Uhr
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, This guy (
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> tri-ball34
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> )
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "won" quantity 23 items
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> valued
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> into the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thousands and will not
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> pay
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This is one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reasons eBay can be so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> frustrating and I am
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> trying
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ween
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> myself off of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it. This
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kind of person not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only hurts sellers, he
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> hurts
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> buyers
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> bidding up items
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he has no intention
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of paying for. He bid
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> many
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> of my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> items that I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought the meteorite
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> market was recovering
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> nicely.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> spent many
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hours opening 23
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> separate cases against
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> him
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> undoing
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> damage, I see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that the market is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about the same. It is
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> amazing what
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> kind of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> chaos a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> single bidder can
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> cause.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Adam
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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