[meteorite-list] [IMCA] Warning, Warning tri-ball34

Gary Fujihara fujmon at mac.com
Sun Dec 19 19:21:10 EST 2010 

Aloha,

Buyers need to beware of tri-ball34 too, as he is continuing to bid up items on ebay even as i write this.  He has won 2 more items and his carnage amounts to 180 items won in the last 30 days.

You can identify this person as a bidder on an item by clicking on the Bid History link on a listing, which will bring up a list of bids, with the bidder ID scrambled with asterisks.  Don Skidmore informs me that tri-ball34 is member ID l***a  

Buyers, if you see l***a in the bid history of an item, you'd be advised not to bid on the item lest you get into a bid war with him that you probably will not win.  And even if you do, it would be so highly inflated as to be ridiculously expensive.  Caveat emptor.

gary

On Dec 19, 2010, at 1:55 PM, Warren Sansoucie wrote:

> 
> Hello all,
> 
> The Sellers of the items will be able to report him through the resolution center. I have had to do this over a different seller. eBay will revoke his account once the proper channels are followed.
> 
> It is sad. To me, it would seem this is someone with a desire to attack only IMCA members. Does anyone know if a non-member has had this issue?
> 
> Warren Sansoucie
> IMCA 3174
> St. Louis MO
> 
> 
>> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 15:11:32 -0800
>> From: star_wars_collector at yahoo.com
>> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com; fujmon at mac.com; m_graul at yahoo.de
>> CC: imca at imcamail.de
>> Subject: Re: [IMCA] [meteorite-list] Warning, Warning tri-ball34
>> 
>> Yes, he tripled the price the Sylacauga would have sold for... 
>> 
>> Member Id: l***a ( 4 ) US $150.00 
>> 
>> 
>> Member Id: l***a ( 4 ) US $120.00 
>> 
>> 
>> Member Id: u***h ( 793 ) US $50.00 
>> 
>> 
>> Greg Catterton
>> www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
>> IMCA member 4682
>> On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites
>> On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites
>> 
>> 
>> --- On Sun, 12/19/10, Mirko Graul <m_graul at yahoo.de> wrote:
>> 
>>> From: Mirko Graul <m_graul at yahoo.de>
>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] Warning, Warning tri-ball34
>>> To: "MeteorList" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>, "Gary Fujihara" <fujmon at mac.com>
>>> Cc: imca at imcamail.de
>>> Date: Sunday, December 19, 2010, 6:08 PM
>>> And now he have won also a slice by
>>> cometshop:
>>> 
>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rt=nc&nma=true&item=360327984789&si=X5WAVEy1HwhgZ2j34Urg68r6Czo%253D&viewitem=
>>> 
>>> and a piece of Sylacauga:
>>> 
>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rt=nc&nma=true&item=260707431225&si=X5WAVEy1HwhgZ2j34Urg68r6Czo%253D&viewitem=
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It is interesting to see ....
>>> 
>>> Best Regards Mirko
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Mirko Graul Meteorite 
>>> Quittenring.4 
>>> 16321 Bernau 
>>> GERMANY 
>>> 
>>> Phone: 0049-1724105015 
>>> E-Mail: m_graul at yahoo.de
>>> 
>>> WEB: www.meteorite-mirko.de 
>>> 
>>> Member of The Meteoritical Society 
>>> (International Society for Meteoritics and Planetery
>>> Science) 
>>> 
>>> IMCA-Member: 2113 
>>> (International Meteorite Collectors Association)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --- Mirko Graul <m_graul at yahoo.de>
>>> schrieb am So, 19.12.2010:
>>> 
>>>> Von: Mirko Graul <m_graul at yahoo.de>
>>>> Betreff: Re: [IMCA] [meteorite-list] Warning, Warning
>>> tri-ball34
>>>> An: "MeteorList" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>,
>>> "Gary Fujihara" <fujmon at mac.com>
>>>> CC: imca at imcamail.de
>>>> Datum: Sonntag, 19. Dezember, 2010 23:55 Uhr
>>>> Hi Gary,
>>>> 
>>>> wow.....a new piece on the list.
>>>> Our all friend have won just in this moment a
>>> expensive
>>>> Seymchan slice.
>>>> ...bad for the seller.
>>>> 
>>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rt=nc&nma=true&item=260705850283&si=X5WAVEy1HwhgZ2j34Urg68r6Czo%253D&viewitem=
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Best regards Mirko 
>>>> 
>>>> Mirko Graul Meteorite 
>>>> Quittenring.4 
>>>> 16321 Bernau 
>>>> GERMANY 
>>>> 
>>>> Phone: 0049-1724105015 
>>>> E-Mail: m_graul at yahoo.de
>>>> 
>>>> WEB: www.meteorite-mirko.de 
>>>> 
>>>> Member of The Meteoritical Society 
>>>> (International Society for Meteoritics and Planetery
>>>> Science) 
>>>> 
>>>> IMCA-Member: 2113 
>>>> (International Meteorite Collectors Association)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --- Gary Fujihara <fujmon at mac.com>
>>>> schrieb am So, 19.12.2010:
>>>> 
>>>>> Von: Gary Fujihara <fujmon at mac.com>
>>>>> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Warning, Warning
>>>> tri-ball34
>>>>> An: "MeteorList" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>>>> CC: imca at imcamail.de
>>>>> Datum: Sonntag, 19. Dezember, 2010 23:46 Uhr
>>>>> To see the kind of damage this guy
>>>>> has done, follow this link to see all of the
>>> auctions
>>>>> tri-ball34 has won over the past 30 days:
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidItems&userid=tri-ball34&completed=1&all=1&rows=50&sort=1&_rdc=1
>>>>> 
>>>>> Those sellers on the list have to report him to
>>> ebay,
>>>> and
>>>>> together we may get his account revoked and your
>>>> listing
>>>>> fees refunded. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> gary
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 19, 2010, at 12:25 PM, Mirko Graul wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Mike,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> yes, I know.
>>>>>> But the shipping from Germany to the United
>>>> States is
>>>>> very expensive.
>>>>>> And so do some of the buyers a few days to
>>>> collect
>>>>> pieces.
>>>>>> That is absolutely ok.
>>>>>> Fortunately, I've blocked him early.
>>>>>> My auctions end almost every day.
>>>>>> One would not imagine that this person wins
>>> all
>>>> the
>>>>> auctions of a full week.
>>>>>> ... then good night Marie...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best regards, Mirko
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mirko Graul Meteorite 
>>>>>> Quittenring.4 
>>>>>> 16321 Bernau 
>>>>>> GERMANY 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Phone: 0049-1724105015 
>>>>>> E-Mail: m_graul at yahoo.de
>>>>> 
>>>>>> WEB: www.meteorite-mirko.de 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Member of The Meteoritical Society 
>>>>>> (International Society for Meteoritics and
>>>> Planetery
>>>>> Science) 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> IMCA-Member: 2113 
>>>>>> (International Meteorite Collectors
>>> Association)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --- Michael Gilmer <meteoritemike at gmail.com>
>>>>> schrieb am So, 19.12.2010:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Von: Michael Gilmer <meteoritemike at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Warning,
>>>> Warning
>>>>> tri-ball34
>>>>>>> An: "Mirko Graul" <m_graul at yahoo.de>
>>>>>>> CC: "michael cottingham" <voyagebotanica at hotmail.com>,
>>>>> meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com,
>>>>> raremeteorites at yahoo.com,
>>>>> "Stuart McDaniel" <actionshooting at carolina.rr.com>
>>>>>>> Datum: Sonntag, 19. Dezember, 2010 23:09
>>> Uhr
>>>>>>> Besides blocking this clown, one can
>>>>>>> protect Buy It Now listings by
>>>>>>> requiring immediate payment. At least
>>> this
>>>>> way,
>>>>>>> someone can't "win"
>>>>>>> the item, end the listing, and then not
>>>> pay. 
>>>>> With an
>>>>>>> auction though,
>>>>>>> the only recourse is to block the
>>> bidder.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I had a few problems with bidders like
>>> that
>>>> when I
>>>>> was
>>>>>>> still selling
>>>>>>> on eBay. It's especially frustrating
>>>> because
>>>>> you end
>>>>>>> up being charged
>>>>>>> for the listing fee and the final value
>>> fee,
>>>> but
>>>>> no
>>>>>>> payment. You
>>>>>>> can't get the fees back until you invest
>>> more
>>>> time
>>>>> (i.e.
>>>>>>> money) to
>>>>>>> file reports and complaints. It's a
>>> major
>>>>> PITA and
>>>>>>> part of the reason
>>>>>>> I quit selling there.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> But I must say, the problems I had were
>>>> relatively
>>>>> minor
>>>>>>> and few
>>>>>>> compared to this "tri-ball" clown. 
>>> I'm
>>>> glad
>>>>> he never
>>>>>>> hit me like
>>>>>>> that. In most cases, I'd finally get
>>> paid,
>>>>> after
>>>>>>> weeks of emails and
>>>>>>> finally filing a complaint. Once the
>>>> unpaid
>>>>> item case
>>>>>>> is filed, most
>>>>>>> AWOL buyers who still care about their
>>> eBay
>>>>> accounts will
>>>>>>> usually pay.
>>>>>>> If you still don't hear from them after
>>>> filing
>>>>> the
>>>>>>> complaint, then
>>>>>>> block them with prejudice.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Another thing that is good is posting
>>> the
>>>>> offender's eBay
>>>>>>> handle here
>>>>>>> so the other eBay sellers can be
>>>> forewarned. 
>>>>> It is
>>>>>>> obvious that this
>>>>>>> person is a chronic offender who is not
>>> going
>>>> to
>>>>> stop their
>>>>>>> behavior.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> MikeG
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone &
>>> Ironworks
>>>>> Meteorites
>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone
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>>>>>>> EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 12/19/10, Mirko Graul <m_graul at yahoo.de>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Sellers can not give negative
>>> feedbacks.
>>>>>>>> ... unfortunately ... I would
>>>>> have done in this
>>>>>>> case
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Best regards, Mirko
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Mirko Graul Meteorite
>>>>>>>> Quittenring.4
>>>>>>>> 16321 Bernau
>>>>>>>> GERMANY
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Phone: 0049-1724105015
>>>>>>>> E-Mail: m_graul at yahoo.de
>>>>>>>> WEB: www.meteorite-mirko.de
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Member of The Meteoritical Society
>>>>>>>> (International Society for
>>> Meteoritics
>>>> and
>>>>> Planetery
>>>>>>> Science)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> IMCA-Member: 2113
>>>>>>>> (International Meteorite Collectors
>>>>> Association)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --- Stuart McDaniel <actionshooting at carolina.rr.com>
>>>>>>> schrieb am So,
>>>>>>>> 19.12.2010:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Von: Stuart McDaniel <actionshooting at carolina.rr.com>
>>>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list]
>>>> Warning,
>>>>> Warning
>>>>>>> tri-ball34
>>>>>>>>> An: "michael cottingham" <voyagebotanica at hotmail.com>,
>>>>>>> m_graul at yahoo.de,
>>>>>>>>> meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com,
>>>>>>> raremeteorites at yahoo.com
>>>>>>>>> Datum: Sonntag, 19. Dezember,
>>> 2010
>>>> 22:50
>>>>> Uhr
>>>>>>>>> Negative feedback also!!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: michael cottingham
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010
>>> 4:46
>>>> PM
>>>>>>>>> To: m_graul at yahoo.de
>>>>>>>>> ; meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>>>>>>>> ;
>>>>>>>>> raremeteorites at yahoo.com
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list]
>>>> Warning,
>>>>> Warning
>>>>>>> tri-ball34
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>> He is a scum bag. Block him,
>>> report
>>>> him
>>>>> and do
>>>>>>> whatever you
>>>>>>>>> can... he cost
>>>>>>>>> me $500.00. The auctions can be
>>>>> relisted...it is
>>>>>>> the TIME
>>>>>>>>> these people steal
>>>>>>>>> that can not be recovered.
>>>>>>>>> Best Wishes
>>>>>>>>> Michael Cottingham
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>> ----------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010
>>> 21:41:46
>>>> +0000
>>>>>>>>>> From: m_graul at yahoo.de
>>>>>>>>>> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com;
>>>>>>>>> raremeteorites at yahoo.com
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re:
>>> [meteorite-list]
>>>>> Warning,
>>>>>>> Warning
>>>>>>>>> tri-ball34
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Adam,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> yes for the full-time seller
>>> it
>>>> is a
>>>>> big
>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>>>>> It costs time and money.
>>>>>>>>>> .... but I see I am not
>>> alone in
>>>> this
>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Best regards, Mirko
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Mirko Graul Meteorite
>>>>>>>>>> Quittenring.4
>>>>>>>>>> 16321 Bernau
>>>>>>>>>> GERMANY
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 0049-1724105015
>>>>>>>>>> E-Mail: m_graul at yahoo.de
>>>>>>>>>> WEB: www.meteorite-mirko.de
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Member of The Meteoritical
>>>> Society
>>>>>>>>>> (International Society for
>>>> Meteoritics
>>>>> and
>>>>>>> Planetery
>>>>>>>>> Science)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> IMCA-Member: 2113
>>>>>>>>>> (International Meteorite
>>>> Collectors
>>>>>>> Association)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> --- Adam Hupe schrieb am
>>> So,
>>>>>>> 19.12.2010:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Von: Adam Hupe
>>>>>>>>>>> Betreff:
>>> [meteorite-list]
>>>>> Warning,
>>>>>>> Warning
>>>>>>>>> tri-ball34
>>>>>>>>>>> An: "Adam"
>>>>>>>>>>> Datum: Sonntag, 19.
>>> Dezember,
>>>> 2010
>>>>> 22:30
>>>>>>> Uhr
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, This guy (
>>> tri-ball34
>>>>> )
>>>>>>>>>>> "won" quantity 23 items
>>> from
>>>> me
>>>>> valued
>>>>>>> into the
>>>>>>>>>>> thousands and will not
>>> pay
>>>> for
>>>>> them.
>>>>>>> This is one
>>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>>>>> reasons eBay can be so
>>>>>>>>>>> frustrating and I am
>>> trying
>>>> to
>>>>> ween
>>>>>>> myself off of
>>>>>>>>> it. This
>>>>>>>>>>> kind of person not
>>>>>>>>>>> only hurts sellers, he
>>> hurts
>>>> the
>>>>> buyers
>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>> bidding up items
>>>>>>>>>>> he has no intention
>>>>>>>>>>> of paying for. He bid
>>> up
>>>> so
>>>>> many
>>>>>>> of my
>>>>>>>>> items that I
>>>>>>>>>>> thought the meteorite
>>>>>>>>>>> market was recovering
>>> nicely.
>>>> Now,
>>>>> that
>>>>>>> I have
>>>>>>>>> spent many
>>>>>>>>>>> hours opening 23
>>>>>>>>>>> separate cases against
>>> him
>>>> and
>>>>> undoing
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> damage, I see
>>>>>>>>>>> that the market is
>>>>>>>>>>> about the same. It is
>>>>> amazing what
>>>>>>> kind of
>>>>>>>>> chaos a
>>>>>>>>>>> single bidder can
>>> cause.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Adam
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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