[meteorite-list] Help with a Gebel Kamil meteorite for saleoneBay

Tue Aug 31 22:13:13 EDT 2010

G'Day List
It has been brought to my attention that possibly in haste to reply to
Tom, that my post was a little vague and could be interpreted that I
received my money back and then the item arrived and I kept it.  Allow
me to clarify my post. 

The response I got from the seller through the PayPal case stated that
the money was returned and that they were very sorry and that they would
forward another item free. I responded that I wasn't looking for the
item for free, I just wanted my money back, but my responses fell on
deaf ears and another item arrived. I felt this was the seller's way of
resolving the situation amicably for the time period that was involved.

As I stated, the item he sent was used and had to be repaired.  Also
that was some time ago and the unit has left my possession and been
given to an upcoming amateur astronomer, who at the time was less
fortunate than I was and it was for free.

Thank you everyone for your time. I will try to be less eager and more
precise with future postings.

Cheers
John

-----Original Message-----
From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of
John.L.Cabassi
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 7:08 PM
To: Starsinthedirt at aol.com; countdeiro at earthlink.net;
meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Help with a Gebel Kamil meteorite for
saleoneBay

G'Day Tom
Well that really sucks. But in regards to your initial question. No I've
never dealt off this person before, nor have I heard of this person
before. But that's not to say they're not legit, then again without any
sort of reference or go by, you're pretty well on your own.  

Now in regards to PayPal and Ebay, I still haven't been able to wrap my
laughing gear around it yet. But one instance I had was that I was
looking for a part for my telescope. I found the product I wanted and it
was pretty reasonable, below cost and brand new. So I bid on it and won.
Well after several emails, I got no response, so I started to get a
little worried. After 3 weeks and biting my nails, I reached my elbow.
That's when I decided to take action with PayPal and eBay. Well that
went on for a bit, they asked me to submit an email to the person
involved which I did, the person involved emailed back said they were
sorry and that they would refund my money and send me another item. And
I responded, I'm not worried about the refund, just send me the item. If
you can't send me the item, I'll accept the refund.   Days passed and
sure enough I had my refund. So I proceeded to work in other areas to
acquire the product I wanted. I found someone that would actually custom
design it for what I needed for considerably less. So I went for it. The
item arrived, it was fantastic. Not less than a week later, I get a
package containing the item that I originally wanted from the same
person. It wasn't new, I think it was a return; but it wasn't used but
it had a few problems which Aussie ingenuity could not fix. So I went
about fixing it. I think it took about 2 hours, but it turned out great;
works great. In fact you can't even tell it from a new product. So now
I'm stuck with two. Got my money back for one but there's nothing better
than having a spare.

So I suppose you'd call this a happy event with PayPal and eBay. But
believe me, it's the only one and I'm not going into the horrors. Tom,
do what I do, trust your gut instinct on weird and crazy things. 

Cheers
John
IMCA # 2125

-----Original Message-----
From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of
Starsinthedirt at aol.com
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 4:41 PM
To: countdeiro at earthlink.net; meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Help with a Gebel Kamil meteorite for sale
oneBay

Hi Count,  Great to hear from you.   

This is getting off topic for meteorites but I thought I would share
that, 
as of yet, no one has said they have had any dealings with this  seller.

I lost out on a $360 microscope part that was not sent.  It  was a total

loss for me.  Paypal only helps if they still have $ in the  account. If
it 
is a scam and the account is drawn down before you know the  item has
not 
arrived (and is never going to arrive), Paypal offers no  help.

Tom

In a message dated 8/30/2010 1:35:55 P.M. Mountain  Daylight Time, 
countdeiro at earthlink.net writes:
Hi Tom,

I believe this  purchase would be covered under eBay's Buyer Protection 
Plan. Give it a  look.

Count Deiro
IMCA 3536

-----Original  Message-----
>From: Starsinthedirt at aol.com
>Sent: Aug 30, 2010 2:38  PM
>To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>Subject:  [meteorite-list] Help with a Gebel Kamil meteorite for sale
>on
eBay
>
>Hi list,  I am looking at a nice Gebel Kamil meteorite  listed on eBay
but 
>the seller has 0 feedback and absolutely no  history of happy buyers.
>I
>have attached the link to the  auction.  I was wondering if any of you 
know  
>this seller and  can say anything positive or negative.
>
>I would gladly   purchase this example for the price it is offered at
if I 
>had some  certainly I  would receive it.
>
>Thanks,  Tom  Phillips
> 
>
>Auction title:
>
>Egypt, Jabel  Kamil new meteorites 480.0 gm wow big sale
>
>
>Auction  link:
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260657796857
>  
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