[meteorite-list] The storm and Lucerne Dry Lake

[wahlperry at aol.com]

Hi Ron,

I should have know better since I live in Nevada. I have seen many 
flash floods before. But as you know the allure of a new lake bed 
seemed to have blinded me temporarily. A good lesson learned. My wife 
and have seen those little crablike creatures before in sandstone water 
basins in Red Rock Canyon. It is amazing how these little tanks can be 
bone dry for years and then come to life with a little water.

>Warning: Small children should stay away from the large cracks in the 
dl.  This is the time that there is a lot of underground water draining 
away and the dry lake surface can cave in quite readily. 

Two lakes in particular one in California and one in Nevada have 
sinkholes that are only visible when you come right up on top of them 
or can be seen from the air. The only indication in the one in 
California was a tiny raised edge and a crack or crevice on the far 
side. The sink hole was large enough to swallow an ATV. I never got 
close enough to determine the depth. I told my hunting partner we could 
figure  out  the depth and check out the sink hole if I lowered him 
down with a winch but he chickened out! : )

This is a good lesson for anyone who hunts on dry lake beds. Watch the 
clouds, watch for sinkholes, cracks and the occasional artillery shell.

Sonny

-----Original Message-----
From: R N Hartman <rhartman04 at earthlink.net>
To: wahlperry at aol.com
Cc: Meteorite Central <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Fri, Aug 27, 2010 2:40 am
Subject: [meteorite-list] The storm and Lucerne Dry Lake


Sonny:  You may not realize how very lucky you probably were.  Most of 
the tme these are "dry" lakes, but they become real lakes very quickly. 
  They are there because they are the low points of a basin, and very 
quickly collect all the runoff water from the surrounding areas. 
 
The Old Barstow Road (through the center of Lucerne Dry Lake) and the 
Old Woman Springs Road from the town of Lucerne Valley (hwy 247) (which 
it intersects with South of the lake, and which then continues to the 
East and up to Big Bear, was under 7 feet of water today as the storm 
came through, but apparently both are open again.  I have seen that 
only once, in August, 1963 we went out to LDL right after a storm.  The 
Barstow road dips to a low point midway across LDL and there is no 
drainage.   It was impassable.  It was interesting that as the water 
dissipated on the dl that it left washtub size pools a foot or so 
deep.Little crab-like creatures were swimming around (about an inch 
long).  I understand these may become dormant when things dry out and 
then come to life when puddles reform.  This must not be very often. 
Wonder what one might find now.  Warning: Small children should stay 
away from the large cracks in the dl.  This is the time that there is a 
lot of underground water draining away and the dry lake surface can 
cave in quite readily. 
 
This is also the time that buried meteorites wash out onto the surface, 
(Look a bit higher than the very low points on the dl.) 
 
Ron Hartman 
 
----- Original Message ----- From: <wahlperry at aol.com> 
To: <> 
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 8:04 PM 
Subject: [meteorite-list] SouthWest Dry Lake Bed Thunderstorm pictures 
 
> Hi All, 
> 
> I added a few pictures from one of my recent hunting trips on my web 
page. 
> 
> Thanks, 
> Sonny 
> 
> P.S. I am still looking for that first USA lunar in Nevada! ; ) 
> 
> 
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