[meteorite-list] Anne Black & IMCA (was NWA 6292 2.110 gram)

[Alexander Seidel]

That was very well stated, Charley! All of the people
on the IMCA board are very honorable persons, without 
any doubt, and I am glad I happen to know some of them 
in person. 

Hats off to that folks, who have done and do a lot for 
the collector and dealer community, in a most positive 
sense! No one should forget: they volunteer for that, 
and they are elected on a regular, annual basis, by
quite a lot of members, so there is absolutely nothing 
wrong about that, as some recent posts to the list
unfortunately may have suggested...

Alex
Berlin/Germany
"Old hound" as a collector, IMCA #0042




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> Datum: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 18:16:38 -0400
> Von: "Charley" <cmb62 at columbus.rr.com>
> An: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: [meteorite-list] Anne Black & IMCA   (was NWA 6292 2.110 gram)

> Hi Martin,
> 
> Thank you for expressing so well what I beleive many of us (IMCA and 
> non-IMCA members alike) feel about Anne and IMCA.
> 
> I have known Anne (via email and phone) for several years and feel we have
> become good friends. She has always been very helpful to me,
> answering questions and connecting me with people that could offer 
> assistance in a project I am researching. She and I (and Norbert Classen
> as 
> well)
> have had a number of email exchanges about meteorites and also
> non-meteorite 
> related issues. When I happened to mention to Anne that I was going
> to do a meteorite presentation at the local middle school, she immediately
> offerered to donate a book to the class!
> 
> For reasons unknown to me, the list occasionally sees someone go off about
> IMCA and how corrupt it is. I've been a member for several years and have 
> never
> seen any evidence of anything that was dishonest on the part of any IMCA 
> board person or member. I have seen several occasions where people made 
> accusations
> against IMCA that are unfounded (and often shown to be unfounded by Anne) 
> but , oddly enough, the accusers never apologize (at least publically)
> when 
> shown that
> their comments are simply not true .
> 
> I am proud to consider Anne & Norbert my friends and I am proud to be a 
> member of  IMCA. If people choose not to join, that is their right.  They
> do 
> not have the right
> to slander or libel good people based on "stories" they are told off list.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Charley Butterfield
> IMCA 6123
> 
> 
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 11:42:01 +0200
> > From: "Martin Altmann" <altmann at meteorite-martin.de>
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 6292 2.110 gram
> > To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> > Message-ID: <000901cb404b$f0f36940$d2da3bc0$@de>
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> >
> > Carl,
> >
> > yes, probably you better shouldn't have pressed the "send" button.
> >
> > Neither you, Barry.
> >
> > Of course everyone is free to express his opinion,
> > but the form it happened in, is not acceptable.
> >
> > Here you have the list archives:
> > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html
> >
> > There you will find not a single posting by Anne, where she would have
> > insulted any person.
> > And certainly Dr.Jambon feels not insulted by her.
> >
> > On contrary, in a silly brawl about possible pairings of stones, silly,
> > because they still are in the totally normal process of classification -
> > caused by the impatience of some list-members,
> > she called on the list-members to do that, what one could expect from
> any
> > mature meteorite collector,
> > to demonstrate the patience necessary and to wait until the results of
> > the analyses will be ready.
> > And furthermore she got committed to exchange samples of the questioned
> > stones, between the scientists involved in the classification processes,
> > which in the end now seems to work, so that the matter can be solved by
> > scientific criteria to the full satisfaction of all interested in that
> > question.
> >
> >> Ann Black has made of a chance for a legitimate
> >
> > I tell you Barry, what Anne has made.
> >
> > As co-founder of the IMCA she made the meteoritic world a safer place
> for
> > everyone, also for you, introducing new standards into the meteorite
> > trade, which got more and more widely accepted.
> > And she created with IMCA a contact point for conflict resolution for
> > participants in meteoritics
> > and a place for advice in meteoritic questions and a source of
> > information about meteorites.
> >
> > And that open to everyone and that free of charge for everyone.
> >
> > And like the other founders of IMCA, she did this in thousands of
> > working-hours absolutely unpaid.
> >
> >
> > That is certainly more, than to type an imprudent mail in the head of a
> > moment - lock, stock and barrel condemning everything, what one even
> > doesn't know,
> > and to attack with inacceptable wordings a person, to whom the meteorite
> > community owes respect and gratitude
> > for that, what she has achieved for that community.
> >
> > Everyone is free to dislike and to criticize IMCA,
> > but I think if that's done in public, one should try to stick to facts
> > and should abstain from personal decrials.
> >
> > I'm sure, that when you'll have slept on it,
> > you'll think similarly about that.
> >
> > Martin
> 
> 
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