[meteorite-list] Offensive Postings was Questionable Ebay Listings

Sat Apr 24 19:24:01 EDT 2010

Elton,

Have you lost your mind? I have no idea why you are taking a stab at me 
other than you are upset about me making a bad off-color joke about the lady 
from Winnemucca. I didn't signal out the whole state of Nevada nor all 
women, as you know and me thinks that for some strange reason this goes 
deeper than what you are letting on here. I apologize to anyone that was 
offended by my half hearted joke about the lady selling the meteorites, but 
if you even looked at the ebay auction and the grammar and the fuzzy photo 
of the meteorite and her description which I posted about her stating to 
hurry and buy this one so she would put the bigger ones up since she has a 
whole bucket full then maybe you would understand it better.

I don't know why you seem to think I'm a newbie to the list since I have 
been a member of the IMCA# 6387 since 2004 as one of the original members 
from that time period. I've been posting to this list for at least 5 years 
or longer.

I also don't find your snide remark about my character in poor taste and 
your comment about my mother to be in even poorer taste.

I am not new to the list. I have been collecting meteorites for 10 years and 
I bought my first meteorites on ebay from Bob Haag, Michael Farmer and Anne 
Black and Steve "Meteorite Men" Arnold and others, and actually have 
accumulated nearly 700 meteorites since 1999-2000 from nearly a hundred 
members of the IMCA on ebay and their websites.

Perhaps since Chicago Steve Arnold isn't on here you need to vent and take 
out your frustration at not having what you want in life on me.

I have to go back and read what you wrote about Michael Farmer since I have 
no clue as to what you are talking about. I have spoken to Michael online 
over this last week and last night and just today also. I don't ever 
remember insulting him and I have No idea from where in the world you got 
that thought.

Now,,,,,,,as far as your ridiculous statement about me being some sort of 
cyber-terrorist, (Which I copied below here) that constitutes grounds for a 
lawsuit and I urge you to retract that.

"Is it a coincidence that the occurrence of a rash of a prankster /
>> cyber terrorist activity coincides with Cox's arrival?  Inquiring
>> minds want to know..."

 I wrote a post on here about the wonderful benefit that Michael Farmer and 
Terry Boudreaux did with the children in the Iowa/Grant Public School and 
posted it to the list. Then Dirk asked me if he could post it to his 
website. I have been in contact with Dirk almost every day until he got his 
web blog back up. That sounds incredibly ignorant that you would suggest I 
was somehow involved in taking down his website since I had a post on there 
myself.

Perhaps you should slow down and read all the posts over again in 
chronological order.  Again, perhaps you should go back over the posts the 
past few days and speak to Dirk and Michael Farmer about me. You certainly 
have me mixed up with someone else outside of the poor joke about the off 
color ebayer selling her bucket of rocks from Winnemucca, Nevada.

With pity that I even have to address your poorly worded comments and 
ramblings.

Brian Cox

IMCA# 6387

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From: "Jason Utas" <meteoritekid at gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 5:51 PM
To: "Meteorite-list" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>; "Mr EMan" 
<mstreman53 at yahoo.com>; "Brian Cox" <searchingforfun at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Offensive Postings was Questionable Ebay 
Listings

> Oh, Elton - it sounds like you have a beef with Brian, and he's really
> a good guy who has no problem with Mike.
>
> I agree - the whore comment was a bit off-color, but I don't see your
> justification for ragging on a list-member for making fun of yet
> another person trying to cash in on...what looks to be a piece of
> granite from the remaining piece still up on their page.
>
> A single line expressing your point off-list would have sufficed.
>
> The only reason I'm replying here is because you publicly accused
> Brian of going around and insulting Michael Farmer on literally no
> grounds whatsoever.  Brian's been a longtime collector and list-member
> for *years.*  Just because he doesn't post often doesn't mean he's not
> there.
> And having spoken with him fairly regularly for the past several
> months off-list, I can assure you that he would simply have no reason
> to take a stab at Mike.  You might as well accuse a random collector
> out there.
> Well, seems like you are.
>
> You've got to admit that it's a little frustrating to see all of these
> people showing a marked lack of concern for the authenticity of their
> wares.  As an amateur fossil-hunter, regardless of what I found, if I
> thought I found a fossil, I wouldn't turn it around on ebay after
> finding it - especially without getting it authenticated by an expert
> somewhere.
>
> These people are looking for a quick buck, and their lack of respect
> for the knowledge and hard-earned money of others does, in my opinion,
> say many things about them, none of them good.
>
> Damn, man.  It's always got to be *someone* with you...
>
> Jason
>
> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 8:39 AM, MstrEman <mstreman at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Brian Cox wrote:
>>
>>  "...I will certainly try to be as respectful in my opinions and I
>> request that everyone else be respectful of one another."
>>
>> One wonders how the same person could justify this post of in light of
>> the above admonition for the list to be respectful?
>>
>> "She sounds like an old whore from the "Bunny Ranch( sic)" who is
>> selling the meteorites a "Date" paid her for services rendered to pay
>> for a face and body lift and resculpting".
>>
>> AS to the conclusion that any woman is a whore because she lives in
>> Nevada--Well that is flabbergastingly offensive.  It is not funny but
>> insightful as to who he is inside.  The members of this list need to
>> have a deep, abiding trust in the integrity of the people they do
>> business with--or take advice from.   At the core of that trust will
>> be the material they sell is what it is claimed to be.  This we gauge
>> from demeanor and message traffic; especially using poor satire in an
>> inappropriate context.
>>
>> We can see that know " he don't know squat" about meteorites but his
>> implication that  all women are whores may be more experience-based
>> even if more offensive..  People tend to frame their assumptions in
>> the framework of experiences they are familiar with.    Of course he
>> knows his mother -- I don't...  but I hope she would be offended by
>> that post as well.
>>
>> Is it a coincidence that the occurrence of a rash of a prankster /
>> cyber terrorist activity coincides with Cox's arrival?  Inquiring
>> minds want to know...
>>
>> Elton
>>
>> "Being an expert in Sh*t does not make one an expert in Shinola TM"
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