[meteorite-list] message from Vincent Jacques

Impactika at aol.com Impactika at aol.com
Mon Apr 12 17:23:38 EDT 2010


Hello Zelimir, and all,

Almahata Sitta is really a conglomerate of many different types of 
meteorites. So far at least  half a dozen totally different ones have been found 
there, some ureilites fragments but also some EL, EH and even H. It would help 
if Vincent would contact Prof. Bischoff in Muenster since he is the one 
doing the classification. 
Or he could also ask Siegfried Haberer.
And if anyone is interested I do have the latest report on Almahata Sitta. 
(PDF file, 29 pages)  

Anne M. Black
http://www.impactika.com/
IMPACTIKA at aol.com
Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc.
http://www.imca.cc/



In a message dated 4/12/2010 2:13:12 PM Mountain Daylight Time, Zelimir.Gab
elica at uha.fr writes:
Hi List,

Vincent Jacques, who is not able to send posts 
right now, asked me to forward you the following message:

Happy speculations...

Zelimir
----------------------------
Dear listoïdes

I would be very curious to have your ideas about 
the following meteorite, here above the story:

In 2002, I have purchased a mix meteorites- earth 
stones from a Moroccan dealer during the 
Brussel’s mineral show. 60% of them was 
meteorites (many chondrites, one little eucrite, 
and some magnetics strange stones,  terrestrials 
following my desert & meteorite experience)

One of them showed a very strange 
lithology.  Earth rock or meteorite? My first 
impression after cutting was “a simple rock from 
Sahara”… but… a little magnetic attraction on one 
side and some cm² of very thick chocolate 
alteration on other side (old fusion crust?) asked to more investigations.

The first question: “Meteorite or not?” has been 
resolved in 2006  by prof Jedwab (University of 
Brussel’s)  during a quick microprobe 
analysis.  “With lot of hesitation, it’s a 
meteorite, congratulation”   He said: “probably a 
very very old weathered chondrite, no 
interesting… perhaps achondrite, but my analysis 
is not perfect. I found only one little Fe-Ni 
flake.  I think that was a mud aggregate, but it’s a meteorite”

Other visual submission to prestigious 
institutions was blocked during the first 
contact: “Oh, if it’s a meteorite, it is so 
weathered, no interest to study it… probably a little ordinary chondrite.”

Recently, I have submitted a fragment of this 
“rejected ugly meteorite” to a Belgian 
laboratory, who studies several meteorites 
including Antarctica meteorites from summer 2009-2010 collect.

The first result is fall some days later: The 
meteorite is very close to ureilite group, but… 
there is a little problem. It contains an unusual 
part of pure carbon. Analysis continues at this time.

We have searched equivalent meteorites, without 
result, except for Almahata Sitta meteorite.

On internet, the following link shows a 
electronic photo of Almahata sitta.  Photo's are 
very similar. Please, compare it with following 
electronic pictures of my “rejected meteorite”.

Almahata Sitta electronic photos (scroll the screen):
<http://www.universetoday.com/2009/03/25/meteorites-found-in-africa-from-fir
st-predicted-asteroid-hit/natureasteroids3/>http://www.universetoday.com/200
9/03/25/meteorites-found-in-africa-from-first-predicted-asteroid-hit/naturea
steroids3/

My “ugly meteorite”
<http://www.heberger-image.fr/view.php?image=96119_kkc01.jpeg>http://www.heb
erger-image.fr/view.php?image=96119_kkc01.jpeg

Electronic images of my  “ugly meteorite” :
<http://heberger-image.fr/album_user_view.php?nom_album=Carbon%20rich%20urei
lite&id_view=c2aee86157b4a40b78132f1e71a9e6f1>http://heberger-image.fr/album
_user_view.php?nom_album=Carbon%20rich%20ureilite&id_view=c2aee86157b4a40b78
132f1e71a9e6f1

Each square and reticule corresponds to an 
analysis area. Result on request by square if you are interested.

I would be very curious to read you.

Best regards,

Vincent

Prof. Zelimir Gabelica
Université de Haute Alsace
ENSCMu, Lab. GSEC,
3, Rue A. Werner,
F-68093 Mulhouse Cedex, France
Tel: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 94
Fax: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 15 



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