[meteorite-list] Meteorites & Competition

Meteorites USA eric at meteoritesusa.com
Sun Nov 15 13:41:07 EST 2009


Hi Adam,

I'm curios what you mean by "corporate involvement" when it concerns 
meteorites? With regards to the IMCA I am in partial agreement, and 
believe they are a good organization, and needed in this industry. But 
some restraint needs to be had with regard to the influence that these 
types of groups have. Historically speaking such groups tend to lean 
toward their own motives over time. There has been no organization in 
the history of man that has not given in, at least partially, to the 
temptation such influence.

If you mean some sort of sponsorship of certain outreach and educational 
programs geared toward teaching children and young adults about 
astronomy and meteorites then I'm game. But if corporate involvement 
means losing the personality and integrity of the meteorite world 
through increased tampering by larger groups and politically or profit 
motivated companies who might in future times limit the publics access 
to meteorites then I'm not for that at all. This is a slippery slope...

My personal beliefs are that people should have free access to the 
knowledge and information that meteorites and astronomy provides. The 
word "corporate" to me means restrictive for profit, and an example 
would be the corporate mentality of profit before people. I'm not 
necessarily referring to monetary profit, but rather to the increased 
influence particular groups may have over access to knowledge and 
information through the study of meteorites by individuals and the 
limited access that some scientific institutions have applied to certain 
collections. Collections that in my opinion every human being on the 
planet should have access to. Not to fondle and ogle the collection, but 
to view, study and learn.

I'm not attacking here, I'm simply voicing a concern and my belief in 
the free access to knowledge that needs to be preserved.

Thanks for listening...

Regards,
Eric Wichman
Meteorites USA


Adam Hupe wrote:
> Dear List,
>
>
> I think it is crazy to talk about corporate greed and meteorites at the same time. There are much simpler ways of earning money than chasing and selling meteorites.  You have to have a love for these rocks to engage at this level.  The overhead is astonishing while the returns are unpredictable in an incredibly thin market.  Risk management doesn't exist. 
>
> I believe more corporate involvement is needed to push this avocation to the next level.  The IMCA is a perfect example of a positive corporate influence on a mostly misunderstood hobby. What lacks the most right now is customer service and value added reselling. Most new dealers do not even polish out the saw marks on slices, let alone polish both sides. Collectors pay for both sides of a complete slice, not just one. It is disrespectful to cut a meteorite and then not complete the job. A good polish is more important for reasons beyond aesthetics. Certification is the most important aspect of collecting and is consistently lacking when dealing with meteorites. One just needs to look at coins, baseball cards and most other collectibles to see they are nearly worthless without it.  
>
> In virtually ever other collectibles market, there are standards in place thanks to corporate interest.  These days, some uninformed elements treat meteorites like commodities that are renewable.   Nothing could be further from the truth. The lack of appreciation for these rarities is really on full display during these hard times.  People forget that meteorites are millions of time rarer than gold that currently maintains a price of around $35.00/gram.  May I remind you that now only about 1/20th the amount of meteorites by weight is all that is coming out of Moroccan compared to just five years ago according to my calculations. It will not be long before the non-available Antarctic meteorites regain the volume title once again. 
>
> I do appreciate the real nomadic meteorite hunters from Morocco and surrounding countries.  In my opinion, they are the best in world. It is what happens to meteorites after they leave the finders hands that concerns me. 
>
> Standards, proper appreciation and corporate involvement are key to the long-term future.  I see a business-like environment helping in all of these regards.    Collectors deserve to have their investments protected. 
>
> All the best,
>
> Adam
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