[meteorite-list] NEW Ocate, NM Iron Classification & Specimens - AD

Mexicodoug mexicodoug at aim.com
Wed May 27 00:44:02 EDT 2009


Hi Ruben, Greg, and a big hello to Dean,

Ruben you almost did get it (You didn't see us, but we heard you :-), 
though we never saw you. You were there just a couple of days before 
Greg flew in. The locals with the guy from Mora told me about the iron, 
though I wasn't very interested. The find was becoming common knowledge 
among the Glorieta local hunters. There were rumors that a second and 
possibly third piece had been found. It would be interesting to know 
the status of that, whether the rumors were of a meteorite and if so, 
the same one.

I happened to call Greg after I saw them and mentioned I said hello to 
them. A few days later, I was hunting when the guy from Mora showed up 
a second time sort of under a gag order. A guy from Florida with deep 
pockets was coming and they had to take him to the place of the find. I 
couldn't imaging who that might be:) Then, coincidentally, later that 
day they came back and I ran into Greg who was all smiles in the woods 
at Glorieta. Greg was a bit surprised when I asked him about the iron. 
Then they ran off to Ocate. I had a wimpy case of being 
Glorieta-whipped, and after one adventure too many certainly had lost 
my silver pick (not to mention my iron digger where I chatted with 
Greg, which I found again on a subsequent trip). I would have said "Dr. 
Livingstone...." but this pattern is getting al too predictable these 
da
ys... :-)

He who has the gold makes the rules, so, congratulations for doing all 
the work to Greg Hupe! We'll get the next one! There's always a next 
one, that's what's so exciting about this...

Best wishes,
Doug



-----Original Message-----
From: Dean Miera <zilla237 at hotmail.com>
To: gmhupe at htn.net; meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tue, 26 May 2009 10:51 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NEW Ocate, NM Iron Classification & 
Specimens - AD



Hello Greg, Congrats On your awesome N.M. iron meteorite! Shes a beaut!

I actually know the guy who found your N.M. Iron meteorite. The stories 
he
has told me behind this find are very interesting to say the least. In 
fact we
spoke again of this fall the last time we hunted together. There have 
been
quite a few falls here in N.M. worthy of spending some serious 
adventure time on
for sure!! Again congrats to you!

Dean
> From: gmhupe at htn.net
> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 18:18:06 -0400
> Subject: [meteorite-list] NEW Ocate, NM Iron Classification & 
Specimens - AD
>
> Dear List Members,
>
> I would like to announce a newly-approved iron meteorite found in New 
Mexico
> in 1986 and has just been approved. It is a IAB-MG (Main Group), 
coarse
> ochtahedrite and is named "Ocate" after the nearest town to where it 
was
> found. It will be in the online database soon and will be published20
in MB96
> (Sept, issue MaPS). It wasn't until 2008 that they finder approached 
me with
> the single 6.4kg stone that the classification process began. I went 
to the
> find site last fall with the person who found it to take GPS 
coordinates,
> photograph the area and to hunt for more if there were any to be 
found. We
> didn't have much time to hunt at that time so we did not find any 
others.
>
> Here are a couple of links to give you an idea of how nice Ocate is 
(see all
> available specimens below classification below). This was cut and 
prepared
> by one of the best meteorite craftsman in the business!
>
> Polished and etched face of a 314g complete slice:
> http://www.lunarrock.com/ocate/specimens/dsc00002.jpg
> Ocate, New Mexico sign:
> http://www.lunarrock.com/ocate/OcateSign.jpg
> The find site of the 6.4kg Ocate iron:
> http://www.lunarrock.com/ocate/findsite.jpg
>
> Getting to the find site is treacherous and a 4-wheel drive vehicle 
with
> high clearance is required! It took us about three hours after 
leaving the
> paved road to get to the site up the mountain on a road that was more 
like a
> crater-ridden trail with large boulders in most places and swampy mud 
in
> others. To successfully hunt the site would require camping for a 
week,
> there is no way to drive up and down the mountain each day and get 
enough
> hunting hours in to make it worthwhile. There20are also lots of elk 
hunters
> during hunting season so anyone who wants to give it a go, be careful!
>
> Submitted and approved classification for "Ocate":
> Ocate
> 36° 17.72' N, 105° 2.90' W
>
> Mora County, New Mexico
>
> Find: 1986
>
> Iron (IAB-MG), coarse octahedrite
>
>
>
> History: This single 6.4kg mass was found by a local New Mexico 
hunter in
> 1986. Knowing it was different from the surrounding rocks and had an 
odd
> appearance (the face of a bear), the hunter took it home and set it 
aside
> with an odd assortment of 'collectibles' while hunting and 
mountaineering
> over decades in the New Mexico area. The owner contacted G. Hupe in 
May
> 2008 for verification of the find, which was confirmed by study of 
the type
> sample at the University of Alberta.
>
> Physical characteristics: A single stone weighing 6402 grams with 
virtually
> no apparent fusion crust, yet also lacking progressed terrestrial
> alteration, which contributes towards its dark brown metallic 
appearance
> with well defined regmaglypts.
>
> Petrography: (C. Herd, N. Bruemmer, UAb) A 5 x 7 cm polished and 
etched slab
> reveals Widmanstätten pattern with an average bandwidth of 1.4 ± 0.2 
mm, few
> areas of plessite, and numerous inclusions. A 1 cm ellipsoidal 
graphite
> nodule and several smaller inclusions of graphite, troilite and
> schreibersite are associated with 
polygonal kamacite on one portion 
of the
> slab. Smaller, mm-scale elongate inclusions of troilite are oriented
> parallel to kamacite lamellae where the Widmanstätten is better 
developed.
> Terrestrial oxides decorate fractures within a few mm of the exterior
> surface.
>
> Geochemistry: Bulk Composition: INAA data (J. Duke, UAb): Ni = 6.99 ± 
0.05
> wt%, Co = 0.466 ± 0.004 wt%, Ga = 71.9 ± 0.3 μg/g, Ge = 271 ± 6 μg/g, 
Ir =
> 2.25 ± 0.04 μg/g, Au = 1.60 ± 0.03 μg/g, As = 15.2 ± 0.3 μg/g, Cu = 
119 ± 11
> μg/g, W = 0.87 ± 0.08 μg/g, Re = 0.22 ± 0.02 μg/g (uncertainties 1s, 
68%
> confidence level).
>
> Classification: Iron meteorite, IAB main group, coarse octahedrite, 
minimal
> shock, minimal weathering.
>
> Type specimens: 97.58 g slab and a 3.2 g interior piece, UAb, main 
mass, G.
> Hupe.
>
>
>
>
> I have only 12 specimens out of 15 that are available, here is the 
list
> which also shows the thickness of each piece:
>
> Ocate, New Mexico IAB-MG iron meteorite
> 910g end cut
> http://www.lunarrock.com/ocate/specimens/nm910a.jpg
> http://www.lunarrock.com/ocate/specimens/nm910b.jpg
>
> 322.6g cs 4mm thick
> http://www.lunarrock.com/ocate/specimens/dsc00001.jpg
>
> 314g cs 4mm
> http://www.lunarrock.com/ocate/specimens/dsc00002.jpg
>
> 211.6g cs 3.5mm
> http://www.lunarrock.com/ocate/specimens/dsc00003.jpg
0A>
> 208.2g cs 4mm
> http://www.lunarrock.com/ocate/specimens/dsc00004.jpg
>
> 191g cs 4mm
> http://www.lunarrock.com/ocate/specimens/dsc00005.jpg
>
> 168.6g cs 2.5mm
> http://www.lunarrock.com/ocate/specimens/dsc00006.jpg
>
> 163.8g cs 2.5mm
> http://www.lunarrock.com/ocate/specimens/dsc00007.jpg
>
> 162.9g ps 6.5mm
> http://www.lunarrock.com/ocate/specimens/dsc00008.jpg
>
> 162.8g cs 3.5mm
> http://www.lunarrock.com/ocate/specimens/dsc00009.jpg
>
> 130g ps 5-7mm
> http://www.lunarrock.com/ocate/specimens/dsc00010.jpg
>
> 4.5g ps (unpolished) 5mm
> http://www.lunarrock.com/ocate/specimens/dsc00011.jpg
> cs - complete slice
> ps - part slice
>
> I am asking just $4.00/g plus shipping, so if you are interested, 
please
> contact me Off-List. Thank you!
>
> In addition to these beautiful Ocate specimens, I have another batch 
of eBay
> auctions ending tomorrow (Wednesday, May 27th). Many are still at 
just 99
> cents, so more excellent deals will be had this week by bidding with 
me,
> NaturesVault. Click here for my current eBay auctions:
> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault
>
> Best regards,
> Greg
>
> ====================
> Greg Hupe
> The Hupe Collection
> NaturesVault (eBay)
> gmhupe at htn.net
> www.LunarRock.com
> IMCA 3163
> ====================
> Click here for my current eBay auctions:
> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault
>
>
>
>
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