[meteorite-list] Fusion Crusted "Meteoroids"

Chris Peterson clp at alumni.caltech.edu
Wed Mar 25 14:12:22 EDT 2009


Keep in mind during any analysis that small meteoroids are not in stable 
orbits, and do not persist forever in the Solar System. There are drag 
processes that produce a continual inflow of small objects towards (and 
ultimately into) the Sun, and small objects (especially in planet crossing 
orbits) are continually being perturbed. A meteoroid that grazes a planet's 
atmosphere and receives a fusion crust probably has a lifetime measured in 
millions of years at most, and often much less. So you need to consider both 
the production and destruction rate of fusion-crusted meteoroids.

Also, I don't know that talking about absolute numbers is particularly 
useful. Whether that number turns out to be large or small, it certainly 
represents a vanishingly small percentage of the total meteoroid population. 
You're very unlikely while in space to encounter any meteoroids at all; it 
could take a ridiculously long time to find one that had previously 
encountered a planet.

Chris

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Meteorites USA" <eric at meteoritesusa.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion Crusted "Meteoroids"


> Anyone remember this one? ;)
>
> THE GREAT DAYLIGHT FIREBALL OF 1972
>
> This grazing of our atmosphere would cause fusion crust. This means that 
> the Great Fireball is a meteoroid with fusion crust.
>
> Over Jackson Wyoming: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It5EztnIdHc
> Over Canada: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaxagBP0IoY
> http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap090302.html
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Daylight_1972_Fireball
> Earth Grazing Asteroids (PDF): 
> http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc1994/pdf/1142.pdf
>
> Fusion Crusted Meteoroids.
>
> The video shows a great example of it and science knows that this happens. 
> How often it happens and how many are there is the question? If this 
> happens once every 10,000 years (hypothetical) then that would mean there 
> may be hundreds of thousands if not millions of them out there.
>
> ---------------------------
> 1 Every 10,000 years
> 100 Every 1 Million years
> 1000 Every 10 Million Years
> 10,000 Every 1 Hundred Million Years
> 100,000 Every 1 Billion Years
> ---------------------------
>
> That's if you count just Earth. There are 7 other planets out there not 
> counting Pluto. Keeping in  mind the likelyhood of a meteoroid crossing 
> the orbit of a planet at a shallow enough angle, are Neptune's, Uranus' 
> and Saturn's, Jupiter's, Mars', Venus', and Mercury's atomospheres thick 
> enough to bounce a meteoroid off of and create fusion crust? And if so 
> could we safely say that there's hundreds of thousands if not millions of 
> fusion crusted meteoroids and asteroids out there floating around? I would 
> venture to "guess" that it might happen a bit more than once every 10,000 
> years. The odds are good that it happens far more often. Think about it 
> for a second. What's the likelyhood that it would be caught on tape if it 
> happened only once every ten thousand years? We see daylight fireballs 
> many times per year, how many of those are Earth-Grazing meteoroids or 
> asteroids and never burn up completely?
>
> Can we agree that 70% of the meteorites that actually strike Earth land in 
> the oceans since water covers 70% of the planet. Furthermore, since we 
> only occupy a small percentage of available land mass then that leaves a 
> HUGE amount of land that is either uninhabited or inhabited by native 
> peoples that have no contact with the outside world. Meaning that any 
> meteor fireball that passes over or impacts in these areas are NOT ever 
> reported. I know we can make educated guesses about how many times this 
> might happen based on observations from many points on our planet that we 
> actually occupy.
>
> Isn't there hard data out there on these types of actual Earth-Grazing 
> meteoroids and asteroids? The ones that actually enter our atmosphere and 
> then leave to go flying back out into our solar system. Based on that data 
> couldn't you make "an educated guess"? Can't we take data from these 
> events and figure the time between them and estimate a number, then divide 
> that number into say 4.5 billion years? (If you figure the Earth and solar 
> system is that old, which by the way is a guess too, albeit an educated 
> one) I'm sure there will be people to argue this point to the end of time.
>
> Still think there aren't many fusion crusted meteoroids out there?




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