[meteorite-list] Pitiful excuse for a meteorite hunter Carl Esparza

[MeteorHntr at aol.com]

Carl, Anne and Mike,

I am a bit  bewildered about this as well.

If Carl had asked what car Farmer drove  because he wanted to slit his car 
tires, that would be one thing.  But  I don't think that is the case here.  

When I was at West hunting,  and finding lots of rocks, would I ever think 
someone was doing something  unethical if someone asked what car I was 
driving or where I was parked and  hunting?  No.  Would I want them to know?  Not 
always.  So  sometimes I would hide my car, or take someone else's to a 
hunting  spot.

If someone found my car, would I be mad at them?  No. Would I  file an 
ethics complaint with the IMCA?  No.

In fact, one  afternoon I returned from a field near where we had pulled a 
lot of West  stones out, only to see Farmer standing by my car waiting.  
Others around  said he was waiting there for over a half hour to talk with me.  
Did  he do anything unethical by doing that?  I don't think so. 

Did that  make me want to share all my strewnfield data with Mike even 
though he was  almost crying on the this list begging for me to share it?   No, 
his  attitude made me want to keep my info even more secret. 

I find it  flattering that Mike finally comes around to my way of thinking 
as he gains more  experience, as he has in this case. 

Mike calls this a "Blood sport" but  turns around and cries "foul" when 
someone wants to know what car he is  driving?   Interesting.

(This is where I would normally insert  a humorous insult towards Mike, but 
I want the record to show that I have  refrained from doing so.)

Steve Arnold
of "Meteorite  Men"




In a message dated 7/17/2009 1:27:52 P.M. Central  Daylight Time, 
cdtucson at cox.net writes:
Anne,
It is hard to believe that  you would put this on the list.
Respectfully , this is not Jack's find. Sure  Jack can claim ownership of 
his finds and nobody is going to take them away from  him but give us all a 
break here. This is a fall that was observed by dozens of  people and there 
are dozens of us out looking for evidence of it. I don't think  this hit Jack 
on the head. I think he also had to figure this out. Why is he any  better 
than the rest of us???? I simply asked what Mike drives as verification  but 
obviously I had already figured out the general area. Cat Mountain was also 
 this big secret that I had to do a lot of work to find out where it was. I 
then  shared this info with others and it resulted in the discovery of 
Snyder Hill  while they were looking. This is all good and if you don't agree I 
am sorry but  How can you say  that this is Jack's find???? That is 
ridiculous! 
I did  not post the location but I did ask Mike if I could help earlier and 
he rejected  me. This would have made this location confidential. Now I'm 
not so sure? And  Jack never personally even bothered to respond to my list 
posts and requests to  help. As you know I offered to rescue these critters 
before they drown in the  rains. They said no. 
I don't know what material is left to be found but  hopefully now more will 
be found before they do drown. Again this is all  good.
PS what is your call on the leak of a private email your Honor?   
--
Carl or Debbie Esparza
IMCA 5829
Meteoritemax  

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