[meteorite-list] Bogus indochinites? Nope, they are real.

Michael Gilmer michael_w_gilmer at yahoo.com
Wed Feb 11 19:31:31 EST 2009


Hi Listees!

A couple of weeks ago, I posted about some indochinites that I
bought from a vendor in Hong Kong.  After doing some research on
the seller, I discovered that he had been red-flagged in the past
for selling fake moldavite.  This made me uneasy, but the money
was already spent.  So all I could do was wait until they
showed up.  Well, they arrived.

And they are real.  Not a surprise, but still a relief.  Now I
know that I paid too much for them, but at least they are
genuine.  

I would like to purchase a half-kilo or kilo of indochinites of
smallish to medium size.  (say 4-10 grams each)  If anyone has
some for sale cheap, contact me offlist.  

Best regards and clear skies,

MikeG

.........................................................
Michael Gilmer (Louisiana, USA)
Member of the Meteoritical Society.
Member of the Bayou Region Stargazers Network.
Websites - http://www.galactic-stone.com and http://www.glassthrower.com
..........................................................



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>    1. Re: Tucson questions and predictions (Dave Gheesling)
>    2. Test (Dean Miera)
>    3. IF you want to enjoy up to 50% off you will have	to
> join my
>       ebay store list. (michael cottingham)
>    4. Possible new fall: "Meteorite hits Akhnoor"
> Kashmir
>       (Meteorite-Recon.com)
>    5. AD - Alfianello and Girgenti very low price
>       (M come Meteorite Meteorites)
>    6. Re: Green spot in chondrite (Jeff Kuyken)
>    7. Re: Green spot in chondrite (Alex Gotron)
>    8. Re: Bogus indochinites? (Mark Ford)
>    9. AD: Lunar KREEP IMB, Double Martian, Rare
> Goodies,	Giant LDG,
>       etc. (mexicodoug at aim.com)
>   10. More on green spots in stoneys (Zelimir Gabelica)
>   11. test (Woreczko meteorite-list)
>   12. Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - February
> 2,	2009
>       (Michael Johnson)
>   13. superbowl good to me (steve arnold)
>   14. Re: IF you want to enjoy up to 50% off you will have
> to join
>       my ebay store list. (Carl 's)
>   15. Brenhams in Lucite in Tucson (MeteorHntr at aol.com)
> 
> 
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> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 22:59:24 -0500
> From: "Dave Gheesling"
> <dave at fallingrocks.com>
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson questions and
> predictions
> To: <wahlperry at aol.com>,
> <geraldbensman at live.com>,
> 	<meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Message-ID:
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> Thanks for the laughs, Sonny...some don't give a rats
> a** and some are too
> busy showing their own...unbelievable, yet unfortunately
> increasingly
> typical.  Look forward to seeing everyone in Tucson, and
> thanks again, Mr.
> Johnson and Ms. Delray, for the great pics and videos!
> All best,
> Dave
> www.fallingrocks.com 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On
> Behalf Of
> wahlperry at aol.com
> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 12:33 PM
> To: geraldbensman at live.com;
> meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson questions and
> predictions
> 
> Dear Gerald,
> 
> <LOL- it that supposed to be some kind of a joke or
> something??? Who gives a
> rats ass if anyone gets your FREE autograph and photo
> opportunitues to <the
> first 200 people. LOL There's not even 200 people in
> the whole world that
> knows who you are and even if they did- you're not some
> god worthy of
> <wasting anyones time getting your autograph.LOL
> 
> <Gerald
> 
> Of course this is a JOKE...I really meant to say unlimited
> autographs and
> photo opportunities!!!
> 
> Sonny
> 
> P.S. I hope to see NO line cutting at this event!
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gerald Bensman <geraldbensman at live.com>
> To: wahlperry at aol.com
> Sent: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 8:34 am
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Tucson questions and predictions
> 
> 
> 
> "To make everyone happy for the high cost of travel,
> rooms, food etc I will
> be giving FREE autographs and photo opportunities to the
> first 200 people."
> ?
> LOL- it that supposed to be some kind of a joke or
> something???? Who gives a
> rats ass if anyone gets your FREE autograph and photo
> opportunitues to the
> first 200 people. LOL? There's not even 200 people in
> the whole world that
> knows who you are and even if they did- you're not some
> god worthy of
> wasting anyones time getting your autograph.LOL
> ?
> Gerald
> 
> Windows Live? Hotmail?:?more than just e-mail. Check it
> out. =
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 21:51:49 -0700
> From: Dean Miera <zilla237 at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Test
> To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
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> 
> 
> Test
> _________________________________________________________________
> Windows Live? Hotmail??more than just e-mail. 
> http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_hm_justgotbetter_howitworks_012009
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 22:55:35 -0700
> From: michael cottingham <mikewren at gilanet.com>
> Subject: [meteorite-list] IF you want to enjoy up to 50%
> off you will
> 	have	to join my ebay store list.
> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Message-ID:
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> 
> Hello,
> 
> I just got back from a quick trip to Tucson, mostly I was
> working at  
> two Hospitals with friends of mine and had very little time
> for the  
> show.
> 
> I want to tell you about my "many sales" these
> last 6 months,  
> especially the last 3 months. I have been working with a
> family-a  
> mother and son who have a serious medical crisis in their
> life. The  
> son has terminal cancer throughout his body, but especially
> in the  
> brain. I have been helping them out with expenses. The boy
> is 7 years  
> old. She is a single mom with a 7 year old boy who is
> dying. They are  
> not relatives, but just well loved members in our
> community.
> 
> So, because of my relentless sales-I have raised about
> $5,000.00 for  
> this family and for those of you who have purchased from me
> thanks. On  
> the other hand those of you who have whined and cried like
> babies  
> because of the extra sale posts-I really don't care
> what you think.  
> Sorry.
> 
> Anyway, if you want to enjoy a upcoming - 50% off on select
> items in  
> my ebay store- you will have to sign up by going through my
> home page  
> and sign up for the newsletter thing on the bottom left.
> The sale will  
> be in the near future.  IT WILL NOT APPEAR ON THE MET-LIST.
>  Money  
> from this 50% off sale will go to help this boy and his
> mother.
> 
> http://stores.ebay.com/voyage-botanica-natural-history
> 
> 
> Thanks and Best Wishes
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 07:25:51 +0100
> From: "Meteorite-Recon.com"
> <info at niger-meteorite-recon.de>
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Possible new fall:
> "Meteorite hits Akhnoor"
> 	Kashmir
> To: <Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Message-ID:
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> 
> There is a news report on a new fall in Kashmir, of
> Saturday night, January 31, 2009, 11:25 p.m. local time:
> 
> "AZHAR RAFIQIE
> 
> Srinagar, Feb 1: A meteorite hit Akhnoor area in Jammu,
> Saturday night following which many astronomical
> organizations rushed their teams to study the phenomenon on
> the spot.
> 
>  The meteorite, according to the locals, descended in the
> open ground at 11.25 pm. However, it didn?t cause any damage
> to life or property, owing to its smaller size and low
> velocity, the locals added.  
>  Many astronomical organizations including Indian Space
> Research Organization, TATA Institute of Research and the
> Kashmir University dispatched their teams to the area.
> 
>  One of the experts, who was on the spot, told Greater
> Kashmir over phone, ?The meteorite was not that big in size
> otherwise it would have caused much damage due to its
> impact. It can prove more dangerous if its velocity and size
> is larger. It can cause serious damage and create a huge
> crater on earth.?    
> 
>  He said that facts would only come to fore after the
> research would be over. ?We are assessing the samples and
> the impact area. We would be able to come to any conclusion
> after the research is over,? he added.    
> 
>  Meteorites are the parts of solar system and keep hitting
> earth. When it enters the atmosphere, impact pressure causes
> the body to heat-up and emit light, thus forming a fireball,
> also known as a meteor or shooting star.
>  Most meteorites disintegrate when entering the earth?s
> atmosphere. However, an estimated 500 meteorites ranging in
> size from marbles to basketballs or larger do reach the
> surface each year; only 5 or 6 of these are typically
> recovered and made known to scientists."
> 
> end of quote
> 
> source:
> http://www.greaterkashmir.com/full_story.asp?Date=2_2_2009&ItemID=29&cat=21
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Svend Buhl
> 
> ---
> www.meteorite-recon.com
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 09:06:16 +0100
> From: "M come Meteorite Meteorites"
> <info at mcomemeteorite.it>
> Subject: [meteorite-list] AD - Alfianello and Girgenti very
> low price
> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Message-ID:
> <4986a978.1f1.4da5.709097206 at webmaildh3.aruba.it>
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> 
> I sale 2 pieces of historical italian material for a very
> low price
> 
> Alfianello - 20.4 grams end piece with copy of old labels
> Euro 800,00 
> 
> Girgenti - Slice from British Museum London gr.7.9 Euro
> 700,00 from the 800,00 I have pay years ago
> 
> For photos and info contact me
> 
> matteo
> 
> M come Meteorite Meteoriti
> info at mcomemeteorite.it
> http://www.mcomemeteorite.it
> http://www.mcomemeteorite.info
> Mindat Gallery
> http://www.mindat.org/gallery-5018.html
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 19:19:09 +1100
> From: "Jeff Kuyken"
> <info at meteorites.com.au>
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Green spot in chondrite
> To:
> <Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>,	<bernd.pauli at paulinet.de>
> Message-ID: <5530247C46EA41628F57289CDC4A53DC at JeffPC>
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> 
> Hi Bernd and Rob,
> 
> That would be my first guess too Bernd. But the crust has
> me stumped. I 
> can't work out if it's a weathering effect or
> different material underneath. 
> It does look similar to eucritic fusion crust even down to
> the cracking 
> though. Weird!
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Jeff
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <bernd.pauli at paulinet.de>
> To: <Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 7:02 AM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Green spot in chondrite
> 
> 
> > Hello Rob and List,
> >
> >
> http://home.planet.nl/~rlenssen/green_spot_in_chondrite.jpg
> >
> > "Can anybody explain to me what I am seeing
> here?"
> >
> > This may be a magnesium-rich orthopyroxene crystal
> => hypersthene 
> > (Mg,Fe)SiO3
> >
> > What do others think?
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Bernd
> >
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 10:30:40 +0200
> From: Alex Gotron <argotron at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Green spot in chondrite
> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Message-ID:
> 	<d75805a60902020030h6af6c5f5xfcf063a7a2b2ebef at mail.gmail.com>
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> 
> Seems like kryptonite to me...
> 
> On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 6:02 AM, 
> <bernd.pauli at paulinet.de> wrote:
> > Hello Rob and List,
> >
> >
> http://home.planet.nl/~rlenssen/green_spot_in_chondrite.jpg
> >
> > "Can anybody explain to me what I am seeing
> here?"
> >
> > This may be a magnesium-rich orthopyroxene crystal
> => hypersthene (Mg,Fe)SiO3
> >
> > What do others think?
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Bernd
> >
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 09:33:16 -0000
> From: "Mark Ford" <mark.ford at ssl.gb.com>
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Bogus indochinites?
> To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Message-ID:
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> 
> 
> Actually I've seen plenty of dodgey black glass
> indochinites for sale in
> gem shops, (its a bit obvious when they have sometimes have
> perfectly
> flat edges or mold lines and the glass style varies) and
> also there have
> been quite a few repro button Australites for sale on ebay,
> (admittedly
> they are clearly labeled as glass reproductions, and they
> are great if
> you can't afford the real thing), but who's to say
> they will always be
> labeled as reproduction when sold on again in the future? 
> 
> Green glass moldavite is also way too easy to fake, (it can
> be either
> melted and tumbled green beer or wine bottle glass).
> 
> As always - know your seller and only deal with those you
> trust, always
> ask questions!
> 
> As far as I know the only way to be 100% sure is either
> chemical isotope
> testing, or the destructive 'thermal stress test'
> using heat/water and
> watching it shatter!!
> 
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On
> Behalf Of
> Michael Gilmer
> Sent: 31 January 2009 22:35
> To: riffraff at timewarp.de
> Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Bogus indochinites?
> 
> Hi Norbert,
> 
> I don't have any photos yet, but I will snap some as
> soon as the
> specimens arrive.
> 
> Here is a link to the auction.   It has a photo, but you
> can't tell
> much by looking at it.  I am inclined to believe they are
> real
> because what motive would someone have to fake something as
> common
> as indochinites?  But, as an aspiring dealer, my reputation
> is
> important to me, so I am not going to sell anything I am
> unsure of.
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190281828566
> 
> A few people emailed me about this - most share the opinion
> that
> indochinites are too common and cheap to be worth faking. 
> Moldavite
> can be expensive, so there is good motive there for a
> scammer to
> fake it.  Indochinites I am not so sure about.  Heck, if I
> was a
> scammer and wanted to make bogus tektites, I'd find
> some way to
> manufacture fake Australite buttons - at least those sell
> for
> good money.
> 
> Regards and clear skies,
> 
> MikeG
> 
> 
> 
> .........................................................
> Michael Gilmer (Louisiana, USA)
> Member of the Meteoritical Society.
> Member of the Bayou Region Stargazers Network.
> Websites - http://www.galactic-stone.com and
> http://www.glassthrower.com
> ..........................................................
> 
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> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 04:48:25 -0500
> From: mexicodoug at aim.com
> Subject: [meteorite-list] AD: Lunar KREEP IMB, Double
> Martian, Rare
> 	Goodies,	Giant LDG, etc.
> To: Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
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> Dear List,
> 
> I think you will find the following list of items for a
> GREAT PLANETARY 
> AND OTHER GOODIES' sale truly exciting and exceptional.
> Please enjoy a 
> look and share our excitement. We tried to make the pricing
> level as 
> incredible as the pieces are rare and exciting. Regarding
> the Lunar, 
> given the amazing characteristics of this little specimen,
> and the very 
> low tkw including all pairings:
> With all due respect, this $550/g price for this single
> specimen is 
> likely never to be repeated except after this Tucson
> celebration fire 
> sale to raise fast money for an upcoming expedition. It is
> so hard not 
> to be emotionally charged about this :-)...
> 
> The GREAT PLANETARY AND OTHER GOODIES' sale link is:
> 
> www.diogenite.com/Tucson
> 
> We are doing this to ends meet at Tucson and finance some
> world class 
> meteoriting - Sacrificing the following Planetary
> meteorites and other 
> rare, real goodies, plus Giant Libyan Desert Glass
> Specimens, at up to 
> HALF THE PRICE of their already LOW, LOW, did I mention
> sinfully LOW 
> prices! No BS, just deals unplugged to move...
> 
> Our motivation is to your benefit for these exceptional and
> rare items, 
> without further ado, gimmicks and glabbrodygook, these will
> not only 
> hold their own against recent planetary offerings, but to
> experts, in 
> our opinion compare favorably (check out that exciting (at
> least to me 
> - it's got everything including KREEP and really
> deserves the sort of 
> announcement for the best of the best, but the little
> material may be 
> gone by then... worked out Lunar tkw = 126g including all
> earthly 
> pairing).
> 
> PayPal is accepted with a smile! In Tucson, 2% cash
> discount and free 
> hand delivery. For postage in the US kindly add $5.50
> priority mail 
> (plus $2 for insurance up to $100 USD and $1 for each
> additional $100 
> or fraction of it). First come first serve.
> 
> 
> DaG 1037 Martian Shergottite Big endpiece and slices
> FRESH Allende (CV3) collected decades ago
> Dho 1170/1128 group FRESH Ureilite hefty crusted endpiece
> Dho 1442 Lunar (KREEP Impact Melt Breccia with Mare Basalt
> very low 
> extended tkw - unpaired)
> Dronino (Ataxite anon) (yesterday-s lowest prices and the
> field is now 
> exhausted)
> Libyan Desert Glass 2 HUGE!!! pieces 2 - 2.5 kg
> Monze (L6) complete 90%+ crusted stone: Witnessed fall Oct
> 5, 1950 from 
> tropical Africa
> NWA 1664 FRESH solid Howardite, nice slice from single
> crusted stone
> NWA 2986 Martian shergottite likely pairing mini endpiece
> and razor 
> thin whole slices approx. 1 cm in diameter and only a
> quarter to a 
> third of a gram!
> Seymchan siderite cherry picked bright slice at rock-bottom
> prices that 
> have become history precisely this week
> Beautiful BIG Tatahouines, one with incredible lamella -
> o-pyroxene 
> crystalline layers, and another with some fine impact
> horsetails
> Thuathe (H4/5) July 21, 2002 witnessed fall in the
> temporate southern 
> tip of Africa, fully crusted 99%+
> 
> Kindly excuse the rushed webpage, but there is so much
> going on here in 
> Tucson that it is very difficult to concentrate for long
> period of time 
> a good webpage requires.
> 
> Great Health and Great Hunting,
> Doug
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 11:50:49 +0100
> From: Zelimir Gabelica <Zelimir.Gabelica at uha.fr>
> Subject: [meteorite-list] More on green spots in stoneys
> To: Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com,
> bernd.pauli at paulinet.de
> Message-ID:
> <5.0.2.1.2.20090202095139.03171310 at pop.univ-mulhouse.fr>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1";
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> 
> Hi Bernd, Jeff, Rob, all,
> 
> Bernd, I would fairly agree with your conclusions regarding
> the green phase 
> discovered by Rob.
> Many silicate minerals that contain larger quantities of Mg
> sometimes 
> indeed often do show greenish shades.
> 
> If we just consider the pyroxene group (quite likely
> represented in stone 
> meteorites though pyroxenes are far from being the only
> silicate group in 
> stoneys), Augite (Ca,Mg,Fe2+)2Si2O6, Aegirine-Augite
> (Ca,Na)(Mg, Fe2+, 
> Fe3+)Si2O6, Enstatite or Clinoenstatite (both Mg2Si2O6) and
> especially 
> diopside, (CaMgSi2O6) often show green-like colors, at
> least when from 
> terrestrial origin.
> 
> There are 22 mineral species in the pyroxene group, some
> other of them also 
> containing, among other, Mg2+ cations (e.g. Donpeacorite,
> Jervisite, 
> Kanoite, Omphacite, Petedunite or...Pigeonite, this latter
> mineral being 
> very often present in ordinary chondrites!)
> 
> Still considering the pyroxene family, an interesting
> pyroxene candidate 
> that would readily involve green color would be Kosmochlor,
> thus NaCr3+Si2O6.
> 
> In this case, I'd expect a frank green color, that most
> of Cr3+ bearing 
> salts (silicates) would exhibit (synthetic silicate
> chemistry).
> 
> The mineral, as found in various terrestrial deposits, is
> indeed said to 
> exhibit a "pale green" or
> "emerald-green" color (Mindat).
> Its name etymology is interesting ("Kosmos" =
> Cosmic origin, while "chlor" 
> = "green" in Greek)
> 
> I don't know if this phase was ever found in stone
> meteorites but it was 
> reported to occur in at least 3 irons: Toluca (where it was
> first 
> discovered), Coahuila and Canon Diablo...
> 
> I can provide a pic showing green kosmochlor from Myanmar
> (Mindat), where 
> it apparently forms solid solutions with Jadeite and Na-Cr
> amphiboles (see: 
> Mevel & Kienast, Bull. Miner. 109 (1987), 617); more
> recent data can be 
> found in: "Shi et al., Miner. Mag., 69 (2005),
> 1059".
> 
> Can someone from the List host some of my archive pics ?
> 
> Also inteersting is the fact that pale green Cr- and
> Na-rich diopside 
> (kosmochlor-bearing diopside) was observed in anhydrous
> group I mantle 
> xenoliths (dunite, wehrlite, harzburgite, clinopyroxenite)
> hosted by 
> Pliocene-Quaternary hawaiite from the Ngatutura volcanic
> field of the North 
> Island, New Zealand (Ikehata et al., Smithsonian/NASA
> Astrophysics Data 
> System, Amer. Geophys. union, Fall 2004 meeting abstracts).
> 
> Natalyite, Na(V,Cr)Si2O6 is also a potentially interesting
> candidate (still 
> contains Cr3+ ions that are partly isostructurally replaced
> by V3+ ions; it 
> is "light green to yellow-green" (pic on request)
> 
> Finally, I have in my meteorite coll. archives 3 pics
> showing a few similar 
> pale-green millimetric rounded inclusions (most probably
> not chondrules, 
> although...who knows ?).
> They were taken under high magnification in daylight by
> Roger Warin, our 
> local pic expert and thin-section specialist (see web site:
> www.agab.be , 
> click on "thin sections"). These green spots are
> from my 459 g full slice 
> "Belle Plaine" (Kansas) (242x195x5 mm).
> 
> Would be nice if someone (Bernd or...?) is willing to host
> these 5 pics 
> should someone wish to have a look Contact me off list.
> 
> Very interesting subject...
> 
> All my best to all, expecting many of you had weird fun in
> Tucson (pics 
> expected...)
> 
> Zelimir
> 
> 
> 
> 
> A 20:02 01/02/2009 +0000, vous avez ?crit :
> >Hello Rob and List,
> >
> >http://home.planet.nl/~rlenssen/green_spot_in_chondrite.jpg
> >
> >"Can anybody explain to me what I am seeing
> here?"
> >
> >This may be a magnesium-rich orthopyroxene crystal
> => hypersthene (Mg,Fe)SiO3
> >
> >What do others think?
> >
> >Best,
> >
> >Bernd
> >
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> 
> Prof. Zelimir Gabelica
> Universit? de Haute Alsace
> ENSCMu, Lab. GSEC,
> 3, Rue A. Werner,
> F-68093 Mulhouse Cedex, France
> Tel: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 94
> Fax: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 15
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 12:27:31 +0100
> From: "Woreczko meteorite-list"
> <ebay at biol.uw.edu.pl>
> Subject: [meteorite-list] test
> To: <Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
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> Ha
> test
> woreczko
> 
> 
> 
> www.woreczko.pl
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 12
> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 03:28:23 -0800 (PST)
> From: Michael Johnson <michael at spacerocksinc.com>
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the
> Day -
> 	February 2,	2009
> To: Meteorite List
> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Message-ID:
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> 
> http://www.rocksfromspace.org/February_2_2009.html
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> Message: 13
> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 04:35:24 -0800 (PST)
> From: steve arnold <stevenarnold60120 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [meteorite-list] superbowl good to me
> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Message-ID:
> <997658.89268.qm at web57801.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
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> 
> Morning to all and especially the arizoners.Sorry for your
> loss last night.We thought they had it,but oooohhh
> nnnnoooooo.Pittsburg had to win.We were cardinal fans last
> night.But any way,I won the first half last night.$500 on a
> $10 square.More $$$$$ for tucson.It's amazing what 7 and
> 7 will get you.4 days till the arrival.Have a great day all
> and to all the sellers in tucson,may you all have an even
> better selling day.Just remember to save a couple of pieces
> for me.
> ?
> Steve R.Arnold,Chicago!
> <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
> href="http://chicagometeorites.net/">http://chicagometeorites.net/</a>
> 
> 
>       
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 14
> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 06:03:05 -0800
> From: Carl 's <carloselguapo1 at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] IF you want to enjoy up to
> 50% off you
> 	will have to join my ebay store list.
> To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Message-ID:
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> 
> 
> 
> Hello Michael,
> 
> Please accept my small donation for your friends. I still
> have your address and I'll send it off today.
> 
> Peace and health. Carl
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I just got back from a quick trip to Tucson, mostly I was
> working at
> two Hospitals with friends of mine and had very little time
> for the
> show.
> I want to tell you about my "many sales" these
> last 6 months,
> especially the last 3 months. I have been working with a
> family-a
> mother and son who have a serious medical crisis in their
> life. The
> son has terminal cancer throughout his body, but especially
> in the
> brain. I have been helping them out with expenses. The boy
> is 7 years
> old. She is a single mom with a 7 year old boy who is
> dying. They are
> not relatives, but just well loved members in our
> community.
> So, because of my relentless sales-I have raised about
> $5,000.00 for
> this family and for those of you who have purchased from me
> thanks. On
> the other hand those of you who have whined and cried like
> babies
> because of the extra sale posts-I really don't care
> what you think.
> Sorry.
> Anyway, if you want to enjoy a upcoming - 50% off on select
> items in
> my ebay store- you will have to sign up by going through my
> home page
> and sign up for the newsletter thing on the bottom left.
> The sale will
> be in the near future.  IT WILL NOT APPEAR ON THE MET-LIST.
>  Money
> from this 50% off sale will go to help this boy and his
> mother.
> http://stores.ebay.com/voyage-botanica-natural-history
> 
> 
> Thanks and Best Wishes
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 15
> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:33:24 EST
> From: MeteorHntr at aol.com
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Brenhams in Lucite in Tucson
> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
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> Hello List,
> 
> I arrived in Tucson last night after the long  drive.  It
> is great to be back 
> in town. 
> 
> In addition to seeing many  familiar faces, I was excited
> to have a chance to 
> see the batch of Brenham  meteorite slices that Geoff
> Notkin and I 
> commissioned to be placed in  Lucite.  The shipment arrived
> in Tucson on Saturday.
> 
> Not only should  this embedment be a permanent fix on the
> Brenham rusting 
> issue, these pieces  have turned out to be VERY beautiful. 
> Many will not even  
> recognize these as Brenham.  
> 
> The meteorite that we took these slices from was from a 
> Brenham specimen 
> that Geoff and I found a couple of months ago during the 
> filming of our new TV 
> show that is scheduled to air on Discovery's Science 
> Channel in May.  So, the 
> items are more than just pretty Brenham slices,  they are
> affordable mementos 
> of the TV program as well.  
>  
> I am pretty sure this is the first one-hour TV show 
> entirely devoted to 
> meteorite hunting, so here is your chance to grab a piece
> of  history.  This is a 
> true meteorite collectible.
> 
> When the TV show  airs, and your friends who know that you
> are into 
> meteorites say "Hey, did  you see that new TV show
> about meteorites?"  You can respond 
> "Yea, I saw  it, and not only that, I have an actual
> piece of that first 
> meteorite that Geoff  and Steve dug up on the show, right
> here..."  And you can 
> hand them  your very own slice in Lucite.
> 
> We had just 100 part slices, all the same  size, put into
> Lucite, and if you 
> are in Tucson, you have to stop buy Geoff and  Anne's
> room to take a look at 
> them.  Some of the slices have VERY green  colored
> crystals, and a few are very 
> translucent, enough so that they  almost have an
> "Esquel look" to them when 
> the light comes through from  behind.
> 
> We are making these 100 each a "Limited Edition Tucson
> Show 2009  
> Collectible."   Each numbered "___out of
> 100" with a C.O.A. and a  photo from the TV 
> shoot included.
> 
> There are 8 pieces that I "high graded"  as
> exceptional, and those will have 
> a premium on their price.  As for the  other 92, they are
> all the same size, 
> but there are varying degrees of quality  in the pieces,
> and in their 
> translucency, but all of those will be kept at the  same
> basic unit price. 
> 
> So, I would suggest that if anyone is interested  in
> looking at them, or in 
> buying one, the sooner you get by Geoff and  Anne's
> room at the InnSuites, the 
> better the remaining selection you will  have to choose
> from. 
> 
> On another note, I am in town with a batch of  other
> specimens that I am 
> carrying around.  A lot of little  items.  So if anyone is
> interested in looking 
> at what I have, call me on my  Cell at 620-770-9612 and we
> can arrange to meet 
> up and I can show you want I  have.
> 
> Oh, and the Birthday Bash is revving up to be the best ever
> this  Friday...I 
> can't wait.  I hope to get to see many of you there
> again this  year.
> 
> OK, I am off now to check out all the stuff here...
> 
> Steve  Arnold #1
> Birthday Boy #2
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