[meteorite-list] Meteorite Men
cdtucson at cox.net
cdtucson at cox.net
Mon Dec 21 12:13:06 EST 2009
Steve,
Welcome back. We have missed you.
I could not agree with you more. The B-day bash and Harvey awards is always a kick. Even Bob Haag showed up last year.
Hopefully Twink will come through again with her famous Meteorite Cake at Michael's auction as well.
Can't wait.
Thanks Carl
--
Carl or Debbie Esparza
Meteoritemax
---- MeteorHntr at aol.com wrote:
> Hey list,
>
> Just a little note...for the record...for those that are not aware, there
> are two "Steve Arnold" individuals in the meteorite world. One is:
>
> 1. Steve Arnold, who lives in Arkansas, who also is the co-host (along
> with Geoff Notkin) of Science Channel's TV series "Meteorite Men" who has
> been full time in the meteorite business for over 17 years...
>
> ...and the other is:
>
> 2. Steve Arnold from Elgin (Chicago) Illinois, who is a collector and
> who is...who is... well...at the very least, he is the one referred to in
> this Meteorite List thread.
>
> Please don't confuse these two Steve Arnold's with each other!
>
> Thanks.
>
> On a personal note, I have been a bit too busy the last few months to
> respond here as much as I would like. All too often I would read an email
> thread a week after the first post was made and the issues would seem to be
> resolved by the time I would get around to reading the thread.
>
> Just a note to those of you who are curious, Geoff and I just returned
> this weekend from a trip to Nevada spending time with a crew of 20
> professional TV crew members shooting a TV promotion commercial of our new series
> "Meteorite Men." This last week, when we arrived on to the location of the
> shoot, it looked more like we were coming onto the set of LOST or CSI as
> opposed to the normal "Meteorite Men" production "set."
>
> Normally we have a much smaller crew chasing us as we have been trying to
> shoot this first season of episodes the last few months, but this last week
> was different.
>
> The production team hired to make the commercial spot is scheduled to have
> a various assortment of finished 30 second commercial spots delivered, to
> the Science Channel network, to start running by December 30. We have been
> told that the spot will run on ALL of Discovery's channels, and not just
> on Science Channel. So, for those of you that don't have the Science
> Channel, keep your eye's open for it on Discovery, TLC, Military, and the other
> U.S. Discovery channels.
>
> Also, just as a heads up, if the promotion staff of Discovery (Science
> Channel's parent company) chooses to go a bit "over the top" with the
> promotion commercials, and they choose to use a bit of "artistic license" with the
> topics that they choose to produce, we hope the "purists" in our midst will
> understand. ;-)
>
> If the commercials just run 10 times a day on each of the 10 US Discovery
> Channels then that would be 100 showings each day of the commercials
> promoting meteorites over EACH of the next 60 days. I am not good at math, but
> we can expect, just from the commercials, for millions of people to be
> exposed to field of meteoritics for the first time, from these commercials.
>
> For those of you that have been considering upgrading to get Science
> Channel on your DIRECTV connection, so that you can see all of the episodes of
> "Meteorite Men" come January 20th, I invite you to email me OFF LIST to get
> a special DIRECTV deal.
>
> For everyone that already subscribes to Science Channel, I invite you to
> mark you calendars (or program your DVRs) for January 20, and for each
> Wednesday afterwards for the next 6 weeks, at 9 pm (Eastern) for a new episode
> of "Meteorite Men." (And if anyone on this list is a Neilson Box viewer,
> please contact me off list for a very special offer. ;-)
>
> I think Geoff Notkin mentioned here on the Meteorite List about the
> upcoming 2010 Meteorite Mayhem Birthday Bash in a previous posting, but I should
> add that this year's Notkin/Arnold event promises to be VERY worthwhile to
> attend. So much so, I encourage everyone planning to come to the Tucson
> Show, to arrive early enough to make it in time to attend the big party on
> the evening of February 5, 2010.
>
> While Michael Blood's Auction is great to attend on Saturday, the fun
> actually starts about 24 hours earlier at the Birthday Bash on Friday Night.
>
> For those of you who have not attended one of the Birthday Bash events in
> the past decade, the gathering is only about 2% about it being "a couple of
> guys birthday," and it is closer to around 98% an event about "an
> opportunity to mingle and hook up with all of the fellow global meteorite
> enthusiasts (dealers, collectors, scientists, etc) that does not occur anywhere else
> during the year, this side of the Asteroid Belt."
>
> Over the dozen or so years that I have attended the Tucson Show, with the
> exception of Adan Hupe's comments here on the list about a bad hotel
> experience, I don't think I have heard ANYONE else ever regretting taking a trip
> to Tucson. I know for some people, in this economic climate, it might be a
> stretch to justify going to Tucson...however, I can almost assure everyone,
> that if you chose to go, it will be one of the best choices you will ever
> make.
>
> I hope everyone on the list that will want to go, can make it. And I look
> forward to meeting up with all of you again at Tucson '10.
>
> Until then, I wish all of you a Merry Christmas, and a happy New Year!
>
> Steve Arnold
> www.MeteoriteMen.com
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> In a message dated 12/20/2009 5:31:50 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> mstreman at gmail.com writes:
> Dear Guy I think Bill serves the community at large to remind the list
> and newbies who know nothing about the real Steve-- so, sorry I
> strongly disagree that we should all use the delete button. Steve has
> contaminated our collections with his fake/mislabeled/ relabeled
> specimens. Conversely Steve could have spent his time acting
> responsibly and not being a @#&#. Where is YOUR indignation at Steve?
>
> And George? Is Steve a dealer or not? Sure acts like one but he says
> he is not one.
> Yeah yeah yeah yada yada ---but how many have gotten fake meteorites
> and how many have been outright cheated out of what they paid for?
> --You folks that defend Steve's giveaways are kool-aid drinkers that
> would accept free arsenic-laced kool-aid and think it a swell friendly
> gesture because it was a freebie and would defend his right to
> distribute it with your dying breath. If I loved art and could afford
> a Picasso and I wanted to chop it up because it was mine to do as I
> please--is it morally right to allow me to do so? You Steve defenders
> think yes it is ok as long as you get a piece.
>
> This "well Steve has never cheated me" comment is confoundedly naive.
> Do you also disbelieve your parents when they say don't touch the iron
> it is hot and have to touch it for yourself ? You that defend him
> because he has never cheated you personally--or those with memories
> shorter than a few days WILL be cheated eventually and then you'll
> whine about getting cheated. You deserve what you get and it won't be
> sympathy from me.
>
> Bottom line: those that defend Steve are either sub rock dwellers who
> are oblivious to the Real Steve and should gird themselves with a dose
> of reality prior to opening their mouths OR they are just unethical
> compulsive enablers that keep his pathological game play going because
> they do not have the ethics to do otherwise.
>
> If anyone else had ran a scam just once like Arnold does daily, the
> list would be outraged. Misplaced sympathy for poor generous Steve
> --held by so many allegedly informed and intelligent folk speaks very
> poorly about their judgment in general. MOST children are too
> immature to play with real loaded firearms but some enablers allow
> them to do so because it is so cute and charming but most feel it is
> immoral to let children play with firearms.
>
> Same-- same --for distributing meteorites by child-like adults and to
> other child or childlike personalities People who take hammers to
> meteorites just to give away pieces to garner sympathy /attention
> would not be allowed to own them if I were king. Why so many can't
> distinguish St Nick from the Grench in this discussion is beyond me.
>
> Elton who is also sick of "well poor Steve has a problem so we should
> never confront him" liberal touchy-feelly "jello for a back-bone"
> mouth pieces.
>
> Merry Fracking Christmas
>
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