[meteorite-list] Steve Arnold (Elgin). Man of his word.

[Bob Loeffler]

Hi GeoZay and others,

>From what I've seen from Steve over the last 2 years (that's how long I've
been on the list), he has been a good, upstanding citizen of the Met list,
although yes, he has waaaaaay too many ads.

But, I have seen other e-mails on this list that say that he is a cheater.
For example, maybe he has a met specimen that is one thing, but he says that
it's something else (e.g. the labeling is incorrect).  I have never seen
this problem first hand from him, but I think that this is where the
animosity on this list about him comes from.  In other words, it's not just
from the constant ads that he posts here.  I got a free meteorite from
him... and I'm grateful for that... but from what I've seen, maybe he isn't
careful enough about what he is giving away or selling. I'm definitely not
an expert, but when I got the freebie from him, the label was hand written
(probably by him) and there is no way to know whether it was really what he
said it was.  He did not provide a real label from the original seller.  I
could sell you a Lunar without a label and there is no way for you to know
if it's really a lunar or terrestrial or something else.  Maybe he is the
most reputable guy on this list, or maybe not.  Whether he gives away lots
of freebies or not doesn't matter.  That could be a front to make him look
good.  Or, maybe he really is that nice of a guy.  I don't know.

There is a history that most of us don't know about.  We are reminded of it
every few months on this list.  But, there are always a few people who say
"he treated me well with freebies", but there are those who have been around
long enough who might've been burned by Steve.  I'm not saying that it
actually happened, because I wasn't on this list back then, but... if it
happened, then we shouldn't get in the middle of it because we weren't there
when it happened.  If someone was burned by him, they should let us know
exactly what happened so we can be aware of it.

Regards,

Bob


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Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 6:06 PM
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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold (Elgin). Man of his word.

>>??No, more like you think he is a great  guy for giving you free crack. >>
But he's not giving me crack...just a  meteorite. The same thing you and 
most people on this list purchase. Are you  actually saying that crack and 
meteorites are equally bad? 
>> Then  after you loose your job, family and end up living on the streat, 
you realize  there is no such thing as a freebie.<<
I suppose some folks can lose  their jobs for meteorite acquisitions, but 
I'm not sure how? I've had contact  with Steven for at least 2 maybe 3 years

now and he's never asked anything of  me. Actually, almost all of our 
conversations have simply laid along the lines  of making arrangements of
him 
mailing me a freebie. 

>>All freebies  come with a price.<<

Postage? Actually, he usually pays for this as  well. 

>> The question to be asked is what is the  price?  My integrity?<<

I guess that's it...I lack integrity  for accepting free meteorites from 
him. Dang...I must be a real threat to the  dealers. :O)
GeoZay  

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