[meteorite-list] Alien Contact Predicted

[Mexicodoug]

"Let's use this line of reasoning: the oceans are really really big, 
not infinite, but really big. At the bottom of the Marianas Trench 
lives a society of mermaids, mermen and sea serpents. How do I know 
this? Because the oceans are really big!"

That spoofed proof by contradiction is flawed for my taste . Mermaids 
and mermen have not been found in exactly one place initially, and 
initial conditions matter. Life exists, even if we could only do a 
better job defining it.

Furthermore, Sea Serpents are common, maybe not fitting a weirdly 
crafted fantasy definition, but definitely present IMO. And the Mariana 
Trench is not so huge, it's smaller than Missouri.

Our curiosity to do thought experiments would seem peculiar and useful 
to humans unless overused to the point of scientific blindness. But 
even the blindsighted may have more insight than the career skeptics 
enforcing equally unsubstantiated views (the "Show-Me State" mentality) 
and offering little except their advice and demanding solutions in 
return (Show me burnt dinosaurs!). Luckily, it takes all kinds. While 
skepticism is crucially important, trial and error is, too. Luckily for 
us there is no skeptic at every juncture of evolution shooting down 
ideas before testing.

Just look at your own attempt to refute Drake's equation and reliance 
on the urban dictionary to impose a point. The ability to conceptualize 
and frame a problem mentally has resulted in advan
cement since before 
the prehistoric rotating bone in 2001: a Space Odyssey. Translation: 
IMO, flatly calling the equation BS is wrong, questioning the 
assumptions of those who religiously preach it and slapping them in the 
face every now and then is fine.

Well, if the Universe were infinite, and a Drake factor 0, then ∞ * 0 = 
1, so I guess that settles that, life is unique :-)
Best wishes
Doug


-----Original Message-----
From: Phil Whitmer <prairiecactus at rtcol.com>
To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Fri, Aug 28, 2009 11:01 am
Subject: [meteorite-list] Alien Contact Predicted


Kirk, 
 
We all know the Universe is really, really big. Maybe even infinite, 
maybe infinite plus one, maybe even double dog infinite. What does that 
have to do with abiogenisis? Why don't you tell me how life got started 
here on Earth, (that would be real science), then we'll move on to 
whether or not aliens exist. (That would be idle speculation). 
 
Let's use this line of reasoning: the oceans are really really big, not 
infinite, but really big. At the bottom of the Marianas Trench lives a 
society of mermaids, mermen and sea serpents. How do I know this? 
Because the oceans are really big! The Earth is also really big, so 
somewhere on the vast Tibetan Plateau lives: Bigfoot! Size doesn't 
matter, it's not a valid argument. Beliefs without evidence can take 
you anywhere you want to go. G
hosts? Doppelgangers, why not? 
 
Phil Whitmer  
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