[meteorite-list] Name of Texas Fall: Ash Creek

[Jeff Kuyken]

I agree.

It's exactly what was done with Oum Dreyga (Amgala). Or should I say Amgala 
(Oum Dreyga)? You know what I mean! ;-)

Cheers,

Jeff


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Gwilliam" <jkg2 at cox.net>
To: "Sterling K. Webb" <sterling_k_webb at sbcglobal.net>; 
<MeteorHntr at aol.com>; <clp at alumni.caltech.edu>; 
<meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Name of Texas Fall: Ash Creek


>I think this is a very simple and rational idea that will help avoid 
>confusion and conflicts down the road.
>
> Best,
>
> John Gwilliam
>
> At 04:03 PM 4/16/2009, Sterling K. Webb wrote:
>>Hi,
>>
>>    I would suggest that the best way for a dealer
>>to advertise by name would be to start off with:
>>
>>    West, Texas (ASH CREEK), Witnessed Fall, etc...
>>
>>and migrate with time and familiarity to:
>>
>>    ASH CREEK (West, Texas), Witnessed Fall, etc...
>>
>>Very useful invention, the parenthesis; It's like
>>having hip pockets... handy.
>>
>>
>>Sterling K. Webb
>>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>----- Original Message ----- From: <MeteorHntr at aol.com>
>>To: <clp at alumni.caltech.edu>; <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 12:04 PM
>>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Name of Texas Fall: Ash Creek
>>
>>
>>>Chris,
>>>
>>>If I write a scientific paper, I  will call it Ash Creek.  For commercial
>>>purposes, if it isn't illegal, I  will keep calling it West.
>>>
>>>After all, that is the purpose of  having synonyms is so that you can 
>>>call
>>>things by other names,  right?
>>>
>>>There will be no confusion to me. I don't think anyone else in the
>>>community will be confused.  Anyone that says "Ash Creek" we will know 
>>>what they
>>>are saying.  Anyone that uses the "West" name, we will know  what they 
>>>are
>>>saying as well.  Just like if they say it is from the "United  States" or 
>>>they
>>>say it is from "America."
>>>
>>>I agree with Mark that some  meteorites that have already been sold with
>>>the name "West" might get "lost" in  the TKW tallies.  Some collections
>>>(public and private) will have "West" on  their labels instead of "Ash 
>>>Creek."
>>>But 75 years from now, it will be  just as easy to sort out as "Toluca" 
>>>on a
>>>Glen Huss label is from "Xiquipilco"  on a Nininger label... they are the
>>>same rock.
>>>
>>>The only confusion will  probably be in the collector market, and I don't
>>>think the NomCom cares all that  much about the collector market, or that 
>>>the
>>>name "West" has been used in all  the media references up until now. Just
>>>Google Search "West  Meteorite" then search "Ash Creek Meteorite."  If 
>>>they
>>>did care, the  official name would have been assigned within a few days 
>>>and
>>>this minor  confusion would have easily been avoided.  Their priority is 
>>>for
>>>the  scientific side of things, not the pop culture side of things.
>>>
>>>Steve Arnold
>>>Arkansas
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>In a  message dated 4/16/2009 11:33:08 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
>>>clp at alumni.caltech.edu writes:
>>>Perhaps those who seek to commercially trade  new falls within the first
>>>few
>>>weeks of recovery need to be a bit more  careful with _their_ 
>>>nomenclature.
>>>There is a reason why a formal naming  process exists (and face it, 
>>>"West"
>>>is
>>>a horrible name that should never  have been used). IMO, if you're going 
>>>to
>>>sell early, you shouldn't give it a  name at all, just a description 
>>>("the
>>>recent, as-yet-unnamed fall near West,  Texas").
>>>
>>>I can say with some confidence, as somebody who only deals with 
>>>meteorites
>>>in scientific collections, that this name "change" isn't going to cause
>>>any
>>>confusion at all.
>>>
>>>Chris
>>>
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