[meteorite-list] US States & Fed Govt Laws regarding prospecting, hiking, ...

[Galactic Stone & Ironworks]

Hi Jerry and list,

I am not trying to be difficult, but when you say "preservation", how
does letting undiscovered irons rot away in the field amount to
preservation?  Canyon Diablo was a massive impact event and there was
a considerable amount of material generated from it - I think there is
enough to sustain a limited campaign of responsible prospecting.  This
would encourage the gathering and reporting of new find data and it
would generate new specimens for study and the marketplace.  How many
"legal" individuals or teams are out gathering Canyon Diablo specimens
right now and what are they doing with them?  Are they collecting new
specimens and "preserving" them?

If an individual is willing to demonstate good ethic and
responsibility by reporting find data and specimens, then where is the
harm in issuing permits?  It wouldn't involve changing the law, the
provisions are already there for the permits - it's just a matter of
convincing someone to start issuing them.  Wholesale and sloppy
prospecting of any kind (fossil, meteorite, mineral, etc) should be
discouraged and those types will break the law and ignore the rules
regardless of what the state or Fed says.  If someone with a permit
starts selling their specimens as part of a business, then the permit
could be revoked.  Abuse of the permit, not filling holes, leaving
gates open, dumping, etc, would also be considerd grounds for
revocation of permission.

Well, it's all daydreaming because it's not going to change
apparently.  It's still legal to take photos, right?  Or does that
require a permit too? ;)

Regards and clear skies,

MikeG


On 4/5/09, Jerry Flaherty <grf2 at verizon.net> wrote:
> I must agree with youi 100% Geo.
> Having had the opportunity, to visit and explore the crater with the
> Meteoritical Society in 2007, I was extremely satisfied with the
> maintainence of the site and the balance achieved between accessibility and
> preservation.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <GeoZay at aol.com>
> To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 10:08 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] US States & Fed Govt Laws regarding
> prospecting, hiking, ...
>
>
>>>>I have to agree with you on Meteor  Crater not being accessible for
>> prospecting.  A person or business  should not be able to own a major
>> geological feature and deny access and/or  use rights to everyone else.
>> It's wrong on a deep level. <<
>>
>> It  would be even more wrong for everyone having use rights to something I
>> view as  being a National Treasure at least. Meteor Crater is just that
>> unique
>> to be  protected from that never ending stream of meteorite hunters. After
>> seeing how  things that are run by governments get runned down, I'm glad
>> to see a
>> private  enterprise is doing the overseeing. If folks were allowed to
>> search
>> for  meteorites in and around Meteor Crater, it probably wouldn't take too
>>
>> many
>> years  for the place to look a mess. Trails and dirt roads coming from all
>> directions  leading to dug out holes all over the place.
>>
>>>> I guess someone  will be purchasing the
>> Mississippi River next and telling the rest of us to  get our boats out
>> of it. ;)<<
>>
>> Probably not, but if someone did,  most likely you'll still be paying the
>> same boating fees as before. But I'm sure  the government has this river
>> regulated already. So we now have inadequate  levees, dikes and what have
>> you to take
>> care of flooding.
>>
>> GeoZay
>>
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>>
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Michael Gilmer (Louisiana, USA)
Member of the Meteoritical Society.
Member of the Bayou Region Stargazers Network.
Websites - http://www.galactic-stone.com and http://www.glassthrower.com
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