[meteorite-list] New or maybe old QUESTION??????

Greg Hupe gmhupe at htn.net
Sun May 4 10:13:32 EDT 2008


Hi Tom, Pete and List,



Tom has been doing a fantastic job with his studies and I thank him for his 
tireless efforts and for sharing with us. Before the realization that NWA 
2828, Al Haggounia and the other pairings to NWA 2828 were found to be an 
EL3 and NOT an aubrite, I spent many trips to Morocco buying up the "Blue" 
material. Needless to say, I have several kilos of the "Blue" EL3 material, 
one of the lucky first-in buyers, not price-wise but material-wise :-)



Here are some additional photo links of NWA 2828 "Blue", most have seen 
these as they are the ones I have with my eBay description of NWA 2828.



Photograph of a 24.9g NWA 2828 slice with rhyolite pebble (image 1):

http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa2828/nwa2828pebble.jpg



Photograph of magnified radial pyroxene chondrule (image 2):

http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa2828/nwa2828chondrule.jpg



Photograph of magnified whitish enstatite-rich clast (image 3):

http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa2828/nwa2828clast.jpg



Photograph of a 14.3g complete slice of NWA 2828 (image 4):

http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa2828/nwa2828slice.jpg



Enjoy!
Greg

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: <STARSANDSCOPES at aol.com>
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Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New or maybe old QUESTION??????


> Hi Pete,  IF you are looking for an  affordable sample check out Al 
> Hagounia.
> It matches your criteria and it  is an Enstatite.  NAU recently posted a
> paper on their web site that nicely  covers what it is, the terrestrial
> alteration it has undergone, and it's  location in the layers of sediment.
> http://www4.nau.edu/meteorite/Meteorite/Al_Haggounia.html
>
> The stuff is  ugly on the outside but I have cut quite a few slices and it 
> is
> interesting when  cut.  It takes a polish quite nicely.  When you happen 
> to
> cut into a  large radial chondrule it is beautiful.  A sea of fine grain 
> brown
> with  only one big fan shaped chondrule.  Those polished examples make a 
> nice
> display.  Some times you get a "Blue" one!   The Blue phase, NWA  2828 is 
> an
> example, can be found mixed with the brown in the same slice.   That is 
> not
> common so it is fun when you find one.   The best part is  it is cheap 
> because
> there is plenty to go around.
>
> Tom  Phillips
>
> In a message dated 5/4/2008 1:09:56 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> pshugar at clearwire.net writes:
> List,
> Maybe this has been asked and answered  (sounds like a lawer thing) and 
> maybe
> not.
> Since I am relatively new to  collecting and certainly not an Expert in 
> any
> area of meteorite study (with  the exception of magnetisum (from the sky
> magnetic VS made a magnet by  processes here on earth).
> Here's my question:
> A geologist  digs in an  area that he thinks there will be the likelyhood 
> of
> finding a fossil. Maybe  he gets lucky and maybe finds bunches of them.
> Has anyone ever found a  meteorite buried deep in a layer that is 
> thousands
> or even millions of years  old?
> Years ago--long before I became an obsessed, crazed, meteorite  addict,
> while teaching a series on earthquakes, I had found a video of a 
> scientist
> standing with one foot on the Pacific plate and the other foot on  the 
> North
> Americian plate, ie astraddle of the San Andreas fault line. In  back of 
> him
> was a small vertical clift of maybe 10 feet and you could  plainly see the
> shift (approx 15 inches) in the layers of sediment.
> Now  I've got to thinking (some say this is my problem--Thinking) that 
> these
> meteorites have a tremendous terestial age. If the earth is bombarded by
> these meteorites throughout the aeons, then there should be a record, ie
> evidence in the form of buried craters (see the Odessa,Tx crater) --  
> Approx
> 100 to 110 feet deep that  has been filled in till it is only 25 to 30 
> feet
> deep now due to wind blown sand (mostly). I've got a pamplet of 
> "Occasional
> Papers of the Strecker Museum" from Baylor University  showing  a neat 
> cross
> section of the Odessa Crater.
> How much  investigation into the cross section structure of the sediment
> layers,  looking for evidence of craters has been done?  Has there ever 
> been
> an  accidential discovery of a buried crater in a clift side. Lots of 
> these
> erroded mesa exist out west. Maybe evidence is visable there.
> Surely  Valeria is not the only animal killer out there.
> Maybe another animal drilled  by a passing meteorite with the coresponding
> meteorite near the body. Maybe  there's no body but the meteorite is still
> there buried in the deeper layers  of sediment. Maybe tektites are the 
> only
> surviving evidence.
> In a  nutshell, has there ever been a meteorite found at a depth of 
> sediment
> that  is plainly very old?
> Pete
>
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