[meteorite-list] Speck Issues - Reply to this subject

[Frank Cressy]

Hello all,

This is a resend of a previous post.  I meant to
change the subject line but in my fever muddled state
I forgot.  Sorry about that.  Please reply to this
post to avoid confusion.

Frank

--- Frank Cressy <fcressy at prodigy.net> wrote:

> Hi Michael and all,
> 
> The Barboton you mentioned was a 9mg speck and went
> for $46.67.  Many people shopping ebay don't blink
> until the price reaches a $100 or more. So
> price/gram
> on a speck means nothing.  The problem I see is that
> this and other hammer specks and rare and historical
> specks can never be verified.  Barbotan is an H5
> veined chondrite...see any veining?  On the above
> example, Peter M was the seller and I have 100%
> confidence that this was indeed Barbotan,  Now what
> if
> the winner "1randombid" with a "private" feedback
> profile finds a larger Barbotan speck next week, and
> decides to sell this one, maybe even using Peter's
> original box and card.  Still 100% sure of it??? 
> Unless you know the complete collection history of
> the
> piece with everyone involved, can a buyer have even
> a
> shred of confidence that the speck is what it is
> described to be.  At least the Bessey Specks of 10
> years ago were either Nakhla and Zagami, and with a
> good lens or microscope one could be quite certain
> as
> to what he/she had.  A little more difficult with an
> H5 or an L6 to say the least.
> 
> Michael, I also have 100% confidence that your
> material is what you say it is, but then I also
> wouldn't bet the farm on it.  I also know if
> something
> were to be found in error, you'd stand behind it as
> would most dealers.  However, with the prices
> raising
> crazily it's might be too tempting for someone to
> sell
> a bogus speck maybe just once in a while.  We like
> to
> think that the people on the list are above all
> those
> things, but wasn't "the one who still remains
> nameless" who got caught with a rock in his shoe,
> once
> a member of the list.
> 
> For you dealers the rising prices are great, but
> hopefully is isn't a house of cards and won't end up
> like the housing and credit debaucle, built,
> founded,
> fueled, and distroyed by Greed.  The speck value is
> only based on trust, and should a couple bad apples
> ever show up, I think it could collapse.
> 
> Just my ramblings on another fun filled day with the
> flu,  Hope you didn't take this personally, just my
> views on specks.  Also seeing historical specimens
> broken into smaller and smaller pieces upsets me
> too,
> but that's another story.
> 
> All the best,
> Frank
> 
> --- Michael L Blood <mlblood at cox.net> wrote:
> 
> > I noted with interest a small piece of Barbotan on
> > eBay. I left a reasonable
> > Bid on it and just checked it out.....
> >         It had sold for over $5,000.00 per gram.
> >         I have what I believe are the last 3
> > specimens available in the
> > world on my hammer site (if anyone knows where I
> can
> > get more, please
> > Contact me off list - reward!)
> >         I will hold this price until the first one
> > sells. To see these
> > extremely rare specimens click on the photos at
> the
> > following site:
> > 
> > http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/Hammers.html
> > 
> > They are easy to find - Barbotan is the oldest
> > Hammer listed (1790)
> >         Best wishes, Michael
> > PS: Under 1999 you can find I have 3 last Kobe
> > (Japanese hammer)
> > Specimens left, as well as numerous other recent
> > additions to the page.
> > 
> > 
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