[meteorite-list] pronouncing "Orgueil"

[Zelimir Gabelica]

Carl Esparza wrote:

Haag pronounces Orgueil " or gay."
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Not so.
If you pronounce it "or gay", nobody will understand here (although I know 
that whenever Bob brings along some Orgueil, it is sold before unwrapped!)

Basing on pronouncing dyphtongs in French (last link in Darren's post - see 
below; thanks Darren!), it comes to:

"Org œj"

as in the wikipedia example: /œj/ as in feuille "leaf"

btw: "orgueil" as common name, also means in Franch: "pride" or "arrogance"...

This being, I agree that writing phonetic pronounciations in any language 
is far from being a simple task.
How about oral records ?
Who can handle that ?

I stay ready to help for French names

Best,

Zelimir
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A 11:28 25/04/2008 -0400, Darren Garrison a écrit :
>On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:59:43 +0200, you wrote:
>
> >I even can't find how to write the end part, as this is the tricky one (but
> >I can consult experts in writing phonetic pronounciations).
>
>NOT a simple task.  There are so many languge units (phonics, and some things
>that I'm not 100% sure are even concidered phonics) that learning them all (or
>even how to write or describe them all) would take a lot of time and effort.
>Even writing them in plain ASCII would be dificult.
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA
>
>http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&safe=off&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=writing+phonetic+pronunciations&spell=1
>
>I've, in the past, been reading Wikipedia entries on languages, and the litany
>of technical terms on positioning of tounge and mouth and how you breathe or
>whatnot is like a foreign language-- if you don't already know the jargon, you
>are lost.  Probably need the equivalent of at least on semester of lingustics
>classes just to get the terms straight.
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_phonetics_topics
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