[meteorite-list] It was intuition ? OK ?

Sat Apr 12 00:36:04 EDT 2008

Martin, Mike and all,

I think you bring out an important point.  You mentioned that you contacted
the Humboldt Museum to check on the provenance of a sample.

I have also contacted various museums and dealers in other countries to
check on the provenance of samples.

A seller can provide a potential buyer with information regarding the origin
of a specific sample, but unfortunately that doesn't necessarily carry any
more weight than saying "This meteorite is guaranteed to be authentic".

In the past, I have received very specific information about the provenance
of a historic specimen only to find out that the information could not be
verified by the party who reportedly supplied the specimen.

Mark Grossman

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dark Matter" <freequarks at gmail.com>
To: "Mike Bandli" <fuzzfoot at comcast.net>
Cc: <Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] It was intuition ? OK ?

> Hi Mike and all,
>
> I too am curious about some of the rare meteorites I see advertised on
> ebay, and I look forward to reading something that demonstrates the
> authenticity on these historic piece beyond the somewhat unnerving
> statement that "This meteorite is guaranteed to be authentic or your
> money back !!"
>
> Over the years I have acquired a sizable portion of a world-class
> collection among other special pieces and have above average knowledge
> of material distribution, and of course, a vested interest in
> preserving the reputation of the historic and valuable specimens.
>
> For example, some recent ebay offerings included Bialystok and
> Andover, two historic falls of extremely low distribution. Here are
> the auction links.
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/Bialystok-Meteorite-Rare-Historic-Howardite-from-Poland_W0QQitemZ250229710427QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item250229710427
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/Andover-Maine-Meteorite-Witnessed-Fall_W0QQitemZ250229711253QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item250229711253
>
> Representatives of both these localities are in my collection and I
> have written about them in my Accretion Desk articles. Here are some
> pictures:
>
> http://www.meteorite-times.com/Back_Links/2005/November/andover.jpg
>
> http://www.meteorite-times.com/Back_Links/2005/November/bailystok.jpg
>
>
http://www.meteorite-times.com/Back_Links/2005/November/bailystok_number.jpg
>
> Although I have not chased down all the total weight of the pieces of
> Bailystok distributed over time, I have personally gone so far as to
> contact the Humboldt museum (the original source of my piece and its
> number) shed light on the distribution of this extremely rare and
> historic howardite. Therefore, the appearance of half a gram of
> Bailystok on ebay was somewhat extraordinary, only to be outdone by
> its low selling price.
>
> Andover is another matter. Its distribution is greater, but still few
> have comparison. At $425/g for an L6, I hope there is more than an
> Nininger quote to back up its provenience.
>
> Other thoughts?
>
> Martin
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Mike Bandli <fuzzfoot at comcast.net> wrote:
> > Bob,
> >
> >  I'm sure there are a couple people on the list that benefit from your
eBay
> >  authenticity posts, but maybe you could set that time aside for doing a
> >  little research as to where your 'Zulu Queen' meteorite really came
from (if
> >  it really is Zulu Queen). No sense it in pointing out other people's
> >  authenticity issues if you can't back up your own.
> >
> >  Still waiting for an answer (the truth).
> >
> >  Kind regards,
> >
> >  Mike Bandli
> >
> >
> >
> >  -----Original Message-----
> >  From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
> >  [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Bob
Evans
> >  Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 3:47 PM
> >  To: Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> >
> > Subject: [meteorite-list] It was intuition ? OK ?
> >
> >
> >
> > I guess it amuses me when I get a response from some idiot selling junk
as
> >  meteorites on ebay
> >
> >  Case in Point :
> >
http://cgi.ebay.com/meteorites-and-collectables_W0QQitemZ110242519960QQihZ00
> >  1QQcategoryZ3224QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> >
> >  Response to my inquiry regarding authenticity :
> >
> >  Dear maccers531,
> >
> >  " your not going to like this but its intuition ive been studying them
for
> >  awhile now and i know what im doing because also when i check certain
areas
> >  i found stuff at i go back later and ive recovered what ever else new
fell
> >  around they are planetary and ill probably be told no its not real but
i
> >  know they are and if you do not like them send them back for a full
refund
> >  and also the magnet the look the fusion lets talk "
> >
> >
> >  - deazombie
> >
> >  Duh !
> >
> >  Seems like all these people selling fakes one ebay  share the inability
to
> >  spell correctly and use proper grammar.
> >
> >  BE
> >
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