[meteorite-list] Mr. Kramskoi & Meteorite Offers from Russia

Dave Freeman mjwy dfreeman at fascination.com
Mon Mar 19 13:27:51 EDT 2007


Make sure Matteo understands that he pays the shipping up front before 
you will ship!
Great laugh,
Dave  F.

Michael Farmer wrote:

>http://meteoriteguy.com/ebayauctionstockphotos/car.jpg
>
>Matteo, here is a photo of a Ferrari I have for sale.
>Send me 500 Euros, then I will send you a contract for
>purchase and shipping details. 
>I am selling this car for charity for little starving
>children.
>See how easy that is?
>Michael Farmer
>
>
>
>  
>
>>-- M come Meteorite Meteorites
>><mcomemeteorite2004 at yahoo.it> wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>I doubt a nigerian scam continue to send you
>>>      
>>>
>>emails
>>    
>>
>>>with photos etc....and is not real this person ask
>>>immediatly $800 of contract, I have sent 100 euro
>>>and
>>>now I want seen what arrive
>>>
>>>Matteo
>>>
>>>--- Michael Farmer <meteoriteguy at yahoo.com> ha
>>>scritto:
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Geoff, this is another form of Nigerian scam.
>>>>        
>>>>
>>They
>>    
>>
>>>>are
>>>>now getting on ebay, finding items that sell,
>>>>learning
>>>>about them, then ripping people off who are
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>gullible
>>>      
>>>
>>>>enough to send money to people they do not know.
>>>>This
>>>>has been on the news lately.
>>>>These guys plan to take your $800.00 then you
>>>>        
>>>>
>>will
>>    
>>
>>>>never hear from them again. The same people are
>>>>likely
>>>>sending the same emails to people for coins,
>>>>fossils,
>>>>and anything else of value from Russia that
>>>>        
>>>>
>>people
>>    
>>
>>>>might actually want to buy. 
>>>>Buy from people you know, or suffer the
>>>>consequences.
>>>>Michael Farmer
>>>>--- Notkin <geoking at notkin.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>Dear Listees:
>>>>>
>>>>>Greetings all.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thank you to those of you who replied off-List
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>to
>>>      
>>>
>>>>my
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>post inquiring 
>>>>>about a Mr. Kramskoi.
>>>>>
>>>>>The following information may be of interest
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>to
>>    
>>
>>>to
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>any List members who 
>>>>>have received a recent offer from Russia about
>>>>>meteorites for sale:
>>>>>
>>>>>1) A significant number meteorite dealers and
>>>>>collectors, around the 
>>>>>world, have been contacted by email by a
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>person
>>    
>>
>>>>>representing himself as 
>>>>>Mr. Aleksandr Kramskoi supposedly of Kramskoi
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>Law
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>Firm in Moscow. He 
>>>>>states he is selling meteorite specimens in
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>order
>>>      
>>>
>>>>to
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>raise funds for 
>>>>>the Kanatnaya Doroga Charity Foundation
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>(supposedly
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>an orphanage) in 
>>>>>Russia.
>>>>>
>>>>>2) Mr. Kramskoi has offered for sale Lunar
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>specimens
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>from the Russian 
>>>>>Luna missions, and some very attractive
>>>>>Sikhote-Alins, apparently from 
>>>>>an old collection. He has emailed photos of
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>these
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>specimens to numerous 
>>>>>people. Mr. Kramskoi offered to send me 4.5 kg
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>of
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>Sikhote-Alins, "so 
>>>>>you can inspect it carefully and give a fair
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>price
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>for these items." 
>>>>>Once I agreed to receive the specimens for
>>>>>inspection, he then emailed 
>>>>>me an elaborate contract and asked for $800 in
>>>>>advance as a "contract 
>>>>>fee."
>>>>>
>>>>>3) Mr. Kramskoi stated that after receiving
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>the
>>    
>>
>>>>$800
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>from me, he would 
>>>>>ship the Sikhote-Alins by UPS or Fedex and
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>that
>>    
>>
>>>>upon
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>receipt I would 
>>>>>have 180 days to pay the balance. I found the
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>length
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>of time allowed 
>>>>>for payment to be suspicious.
>>>>>
>>>>>4) A well-respected List member, and
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>professional
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>colleague of mine in 
>>>>>Europe, was offered the same pieces and the
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>same
>>    
>>
>>>>>contract, at the same 
>>>>>time, though for a different price.
>>>>>
>>>>>5) My colleague has a reliable friend in
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>Russia
>>    
>>
>>>>who
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>has established 
>>>>>that the address provided by Mr. Kramskoi for
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>his
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>law office does not 
>>>>>exist.
>>>>>
>>>>>6) My colleague and I both declined to enter
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>into
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>any form of 
>>>>>transaction with Mr. Kramskoi, and I post this
>>>>>information so anyone 
>>>>>else who is thinking of doing business with
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>him
>>    
>>
>>>>will
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>be able to form 
>>>>>their own conclusions before sending any money
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>to
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>Russia.
>>>>>
>>>>>Anyone wanting more detailed information,
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>please
>>    
>>
>>>>>contact me off-List. I 
>>>>>can tell you about another great offer I
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>received
>>>      
>>>
>>>>>from Nigeria  : )
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Sincerely,
>>>>>
>>>>>Geoff N.
>>>>>www.aerolite.org
>>>>>
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>>>M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato
>>>Via Triestina 126/A - 30173 - TESSERA, VENEZIA,
>>>ITALY
>>>Email: mcomemeteorite2004 at yahoo.it
>>>Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it 
>>>Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info
>>>MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com
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