[meteorite-list] A friendly warning...

Sat Jun 23 17:50:11 EDT 2007

is impossible say where is go lost seen a ordinary pack is
impossible to track. In 10 years I buy outside Italy its go
lost only 3 packs and 2 of this outside Italy. The italian
customs where pass the packs is not interested in rocks, for
not speack we have a perfect system of shipping outside
Italy, in few days registered mail arrive in all world,
yesterday Italy - South Africa in 6 days.

Matteo

----- Original Message -----
Da : "Martin Altmann" <altmann at meteorite-martin.de>
A : <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Oggetto : Re: [meteorite-list] A friendly warning...
Data : Sat, 23 Jun 2007 19:40:01 +0200

> >Its well know ordinary packs go
> >for the 70% lost.
> 
> Then the problem has to be located in Italy,
> I had only 2 losses in 7 years from USA.
> 
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] Im
> Auftrag von M come Meteorite Meteorites
> Gesendet: Samstag, 23. Juni 2007 19:03
> An: michael cottingham; 'Jakub Radwan';
> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re:
> [meteorite-list] A friendly warning...
> 
> It is many strange speack of high shipping cost when I buy
> many minerals from USA - some its over 4 kg. - and I pay
> for all $55 for a unique ship and registered, or a normaly
> registered mail of at 200 grams I pay at $10 via
> USPS...for not speack of express courier type FedEx or UPS
> , this last I pay at $40 for big packs. Its well know
> ordinary packs go for the 70% lost.
> 
> Matteo
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> Da : "michael cottingham" <mikewren at gilanet.com>
> A : "'Jakub Radwan'" <jakub at meteorites.pl>,
> <Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Oggetto : Re: [meteorite-list] A friendly warning...
> Data : Sat, 23 Jun 2007 10:56:32 -0600
> 
> > Jakub,
> > 
> > When is the last time you emailed me?  5 or 6 months
> > ago?  Because this is the 1st time, since our
> > transaction that I have heard anything about this one.
> > 
> > Back then I answered your emails. Back then I told you I
> > had shipped it and back then I communicated with you
> > just fine.
> > 
> > NO. I don't answer every email on the same subject,
> > especially when overseas shipping can take time ... a
> > long time.  I have had this problem before, and I
> > believe everyone finally did receive their item. Maybe,
> > a year later, but that was not MY FAULT!  
> > 
> > True Story:  I sent out several thousands of dollars
> > worth of the Rare Fall, Weston... I sent it out Global
> > Priority Mail. It never showed up. I was surprised
> > because I had never lost a Global Priority before. I
> > sent a replacement.. Registered Mail, Thousands of
> > dollars more of Weston. IT NEVER Showed up. This was to
> > Germany.  The buyer thought I was a thief. I thought the
> > buyer a thief. I began to slowly refund the money... I
> > was pissed because I thought I was scammed. About a year
> > or more later, one of the packages was found in the
> > basement of the next door neighbor. They found this
> > package while cleaning their basement. My buyer was not
> > home when the package came, so the postman gave it to
> > the neighbor... and she finally gave it to my client a
> > year later!  The second package is still missing in
> > Germany. 
> > In the 10 years I have been doing this... I have sent
> > over 20,000 packages. I have over 9,000 (NINE THOUSAND)
> > Positive feedbacks on Ebay, and that is just my ebay
> > business.  I have sold thousands of meteorites to
> > hundreds of happy customers. I have refunded every
> > purchase that was lost in the mail or if the person was
> > dissatisfied.  
> > Also, there is NO WAY to track your shipment outside the
> > USA. At that time I do not believe that service was
> > available on the way I sent it.
> > 
> > ALSO, when you elect to play the "Customs Game", that is
> > , no or little value decalred on the item and you want
> > to insure it for the full amount, remember I told you I
> > don't do that. It is illegal.  I did recommend that you
> > insure it, but that amount would be declared on the
> > customs invoice and you would have to pay your customs
> > fee. If the buyer elects to have NO VALUE placed on the
> > item, as to avoid custom fees, then they forfeit all
> > rights to a refund.
> > 
> > 
> > I have had maybe 25 lost packages, (In 10 years) and I
> > believe I have refunded or replaced the items in all of
> > these cases, unless there was some other agreement.
> > 
> > In my experience, Italy is the worst place to send
> > anything to... Eastern Europe is second and Germany has
> > sometimes the worst delays.. (Due to Customs).  This
> > statement is not intended to be slander or to be mean,
> > but some countries have a terrible postal system, with
> > thieves , delays, and other problems...
> > 
> > I am in the business to sell meteorites... not play
> >  games. CUSTOMER> POSTAL SERVICE>SELLER.  The party in
> > the middle is sometimes to blame!
> > 
> > 
> > Best Wishes
> > 
> > Michael Cottingham
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
> > [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On
> > Behalf Of Jakub Radwan
> > Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 6:35 AM
> > To: Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> > Subject: [meteorite-list] A friendly warning...
> > 
> > Dear Listees,
> > 
> > As I have tried all other ways to work things out, I
> > believe it is high  time I sent a friendly warning. 
> > 
> > Almost 7 months ago, I purchased a specimen of Campo Del
> > Cielo from Michael  Cottingham. As a Christmas bonus
> > Michael offered a 50% discount and agreed  to cover
> > freight charges. What was my surprise when it turned out
> > that the  package had been sent via USPS's Global
> > Economy Parcel service (the worst  ground shipping
> > option out there with estimated delivery time of 4-6 
> > weeks). Needless to say the parcel has never made it,
> > but that is not why I  am making this public. The real
> > reason is Michael's lack of respect for his  customers.
> > 
> > Not only has he failed to provide me with a shipping
> > confirmation as a  proof that the package has actually
> > been sent (with all due respect, why  should I trust
> > him?) , he is also not even so kind as to reply to my 
> > e-mails. Of course, I am aware there is no way to get my
> > money back. I just  want to warn you. Please think twice
> > before you order anything from the  Michael Cottingham
> > Meteorite Collection.
> > 
> > 
> > Kind regards from Poland,
> > 
> > Jakub Radwan
> > Polish Meteoritical Society
> > 
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