[meteorite-list] Fwd: Meteorite in New Hampshire

Thetoprok at aol.com Thetoprok at aol.com
Fri Feb 23 18:47:56 EST 2007



Gary, List,
 
Great effort Gary! You have to go look if you're going to find them. :  )
 
I've lived in lake country here in Michigan for most of my life, grew up  
here.The county I'm in has 400+ lakes, not including ponds! I lived on a lake  
almost all of my life and and I've been an ice fisherman virtually all that  
time. I've noticed these holes as long as I can remember. Perhaps I'm wrong, but  
here's my proposed scenario for your meteorite hole suspect. 
 

Pond freezes, small amount of snow accumulates, there's a spot above  the 
spring that's not freezing as fast and may be open. Muskrats and mink may  also 
use this as a spot to get air and feed, sometimes keeping a hole open late  
into winter. This doesn't appear to be the case though as there was not an  
abundance of vegetation on the ice, as would be if muskrats were feeding there.  
Anyway, the ice thickens to several inches, it warms up a bit, then snow starts  
to melt. This leaves a layer of water on top of the ice. At the same time, 
the  hole from the spring will grow a little from the snow melt that is flowing 
into  the pond through the hole. This leaves a spider web like pattern on the 
ice.  Now, just before the two feet of snow falls, the temperature drops, 
creating a  layer of ice on the surface of the melted snow water that's on the 
already  frozen lake surface. Two feet of snow falls and blankets the pond, 
insulating  the ice from a deeper freeze. You will have a thin layer of ice, 
perhaps a few  inches, then a layer of liquid water, then another layer of usually 
thicker ice,  then the pond. The spider web like pattern that was a wet trench, 
catches snow  that gets slushy, thereby catching more snow, until you 
actually have a bump  that may look like a splash because it is irregular, follow me?
 
 VOILA! I've observed this many times.
 
Cheers,
Larry
 

A freshwater spring can move around over a period of years, or a new  one may 
pop and last a while and redirect it's self back to the main one, that's  why 
she thought the spring was in a different location.
 
 
 
In a message dated 2/23/2007 12:08:44 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
_gary at webbers.com_ (mailto:gary at webbers.com)  writes:
Thanks for the  link Goran.  It is most telling that there was no mud on the 
surface of  
the ice.  From your referred webpage;
 
"Meteorite made 4 meter wide hole in the ice and mud was spread over 24 x  33 
m wide area 
around the hole."
 
Alo,. the fact that no chunks of ice were found around the hole.  Do  you 
think the heat 
or ferocity of a presumed impact might have melted or  shattered them to 
minute fragments 
indestinguishable from snow?
 
>  The story about the hole getting bigger 
> the first day  is one part of it.
 
That too disturbs me.  But there are thermal qualities that might have  
caused this.  
Perhaps the suddenly open water, being warmer than the  surrounding ice gave 
the hole time 
to enlarge before stunning cold set back  in and froze it all back up?  Just 
conjecture.
 
> We had a number of similar appearances of holes in ice 5-10 years ago  
> but none yielded any meteorites.
 
I wonder why this time period of 5 to 10 years is so short?  Why not  all the 
time?
> 
> ... but I hope I'm wrong.
 
Me too:)
 
Thanks,
 
Gary
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