[meteorite-list] Samples

Ingo Herkstroeter metopaster at gmx.de
Sat Dec 29 19:41:54 EST 2007


Hi John, List!

John, I think your observation is absolutely correct. Same game here in
Germany: You can be happy, if you find someone, who will make
classification of OCs especially if they aren't very fresh or very
small.
Maybe we will have better times (in this point), if the NWA rush is over
completely...

For me it's not important how long a classification will take, only that
I will get it someday. I've learned that years are common...
But I think it's a shame for the meteorite community, if you become
treated like Andy or others, who have described their experiences here:
If you send in samples again and again and they go lost again and again,
or never become answer, what should on think about the scientist than? 
It's not important, if you pay for classification or not in my opinion.
If someone starts a job, he has to finish it or make clear, why he can't
do so and try to look for alternatives. If the job can't be done you
have to get back all your samples: They are still your property...

Happy and healthy New (and meteorite fall rich) Year! 'Guten Rutsch'

Ingo

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von
JKGwilliam
Gesendet: Samstag, 29. Dezember 2007 23:54
An: Mark Crawford; JKGwilliam
Cc: 'AL Mitterling'; meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Samples

I know that many of the Arizona meteorite hunters had loyalties to 
University of Arizona and/or Arizona State University in the 
past.   Several years ago, it wasn't unusual to get a classification 
(free) done in just a few months depending on who you knew at which 
school and what you relationship to them was. The Arizona 
universities were excited to see more Arizona material start showing 
up. But as time went by and meteorite hunting popularity increased, 
so did  the amount of material submitted to labs for 
classification.  I don't know if I'm right, but I suppose that the 
meteorite scientists might have lost their interest in the common 
stuff after seeing so much of it.  Prior to that, there was very 
little material submitted for classification.

Just my opinion,
John
At 12:17 PM 12/29/2007, Mark Crawford wrote:
>John/list,
>
>At the risk of sounding naive, why /wouldn't/ you pay for 
>professional classification?  If Bessey's fee of around $80 is 
>typical (and I admit, I don't know if that's the case), why would 
>you risk lost samples or interminable delays?  Why not just add an 
>extra buck/gramme to the sale price?
>
>I guess what I'm asking is, what's the non-financial reason for 
>lodging with a non-fee-charging establishment?  Do 'professional' 
>labs only validate a limited range of types (eg - Bathurst don't do 
>irons)? Do you have no say over where the type specimen gets lodged?
>
>Mark
>
>
>JKGwilliam wrote:
>>I suppose the only solution is to pay for the classification 
>>services so true "professionals" will be handling your 
>>specimen.  Please don't misunderstand my use of the word 
>>"professional."  I'm talking about scientists who are also business 
>>professionals.

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