AW: AW: [meteorite-list] RE: POLL: rustiest most unstable known

[Martin Altmann]

Ooops, Doug,

it was really a bad joke from me and as I don't know, whether e.g. Mr.S.A.
from C. will try it, when he will have decided that stones are the better
wife, I have to make it clear:

Lithium is toxic.
(ad a lithium terapy against depressions has to be surveyed by a doc).

Back to the secret knowledge of our grandmas.
Egg-plants and knob celery have a strong tendency to oxidize directly after
slicing,
perhaps we should ask them for a proper recipe?
(Cooking in olive oil with garlic and lemon and hush in the preserving jar
with an affectionately painted label?)

I have no major problems with rust,
Simply because I don't collect that much irons,
and I'm avoiding such stuff like Campo, Nantan, Dronino & Co.
Until now it was always sufficient to keep my irons oiled - I use the gunoil
called Ballistol and only in a few cases I had to play a varnish.

And ooops again:  NEVER apply oil to STONE meteorites!!

Martin

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Gesendet: Mittwoch, 31. Mai 2006 19:29
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Betreff: Re: AW: [meteorite-list] RE: POLL: rustiest most unstable known

Martin A. wrote:

<< Hehe, Lithium grease, applied on the tongue it may relieve your 
depressions in watching your irons rusting to pulp. NOOOOOOO just a joke!
Kids, DON'T do 
it at home! Buckleboo! >>

Hey Martin, rumor is that Valium straight up in grain alcohol taken with a 
pinch of gun oil shaken not stirred lifts the spirits of sad irons, or at
least 
blows them away.  Too much lithium grease is hard on the chamois.  (I did
try 
"white" lithium grease left over from my cycling days, and it worked as well

as the next grease, with the exception that it is a finer, less oily grease 
than most and for that it gets a minimal positive.  But in the big scheme of

things, even the best secret formula of gun oil can't cure cancer!  If you
enjoy 
curating like this its time to get a pet.

Though, I would like to see some further discussion on "dielectric" greases,

namely the one I used that was for spark plugs and worked fine on a crappy 
Campo that was thrown away which I rescued in the name of science.  As Steve

Schoner points out, corrosion is a redox reaction and the best bet is to
make sure 
they go where you want their potential, or better yet, just stonewall (pun?)

the flow of electrons (Remember=>loss of electrons = oxidation).  You need 
your electrons to stay put on your base metal, so an appropriate dielectric 
compound is the answer if you are not playing in the make-shift lab to
better 
"prepare" your specimen by roasting it in the oven and drowning it in the 
black-magical solvents that some Merlin out there is offering.  That where
the 
dielectric "grease" comes in (it probably isn't a grease at all, not much
more than 
brake oils or transmission oils are oils).

Alternately, transmission fluid was suggested.  A big pickle jar filled with

transmission fluid ought to work well especially when heated for a time to 
engine temperature.  It does penetrate well as someone wants to make sure it
gets 
between the teeth of the transmission gears, not to mention all the
corrosion 
inhibiters.  

But, I would still try my luck with ordinary this:
http://www.midwayautosupply.com/manufacturerminorcategory.asp?Dielectric%20G
re
ase

Or from Germany proven on especially nasty Italian specimens:
http://www.international-auto.com/index.cfm/fa/p/pid/2765/sc/8140

Or something a bit more exotic along the same lines:
http://www3.3m.com/catalog/us/en001/auto_marine_aero/aerospace/node_GS9NWKSQ
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be/root_GST1T4S9TCgv/vroot_GSNNJ6NQDKge/gvel_S3PQPD4JXXgl/theme_us_aerospace
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Or, Maybe Rusty Bill has these all beat, btw since the US military knows a 
lot and uses it on their oriented nosecones.  A material that has great 
dielectric properties and goes on so thin, you can't see it that comes with
a light 
maintenance schedule.  Cada quien su rollo (to each his own eggroll)...
http://www.paleobond.com/MeteoriteProducts.htm

Then again, it all depends on whether these roasted, char-broiled, and 
parboiled, chemically cured, coated and pickled pieces of metal really have
a heart 
of a meteorite left in them or are just chemically modified vulcanized 
masterpieces* for boasting taxidermeteoricists.  It's probably "ok - but
why????", 
and loses all kinds of trace stuff near the surface...not that corrosion 
wouldn't have the same effect.  That meteoriticistical alteration would be a
good 
question for a museum curator as long as it is a research collection and not
a 
Ripley's Believe-It-Or-Not collection where a chunk from a junkyard would be

just as an effective draw with the right promotion.  Hopefully if I ever get

picked up by a UFO the beings won't be so crude in their pickling methods.
I'd 
just like to tell them that once you loose the natural look and feel of
things, 
getting cremed is better than a slow death by burial in fancy boxes.  It's 
only supposed to be a duck if it walks, talks, quacks and poops like a duck.

*meteorites from Planet Vulcan, the OTHER Mercury we never can see.

Saludos, Doug