[meteorite-list] AD: METEORITE CLASSIFICATION SERVICE

joseph_town at att.net joseph_town at att.net
Sat Jul 15 18:17:25 EDT 2006


>I know the intentions of the directors, and personally, I can guarantee you
>that the sort of wanton buying of everything in sight that you so fear 
>won't
>occur.  If that's not good enough for you, I see no reason to continue this
>argument, because you don't believe what I'm saying in the first place

Jason,

I've been listening, until I heard that comment.

Bill


 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "stan ." <laser_maniac at hotmail.com>
> 
> 
> >What Marvin almost always does is sell half of a specimen and keep the rest
> >intact.  In this fashion, he hasn't entirely kept meteorites from being 
> >cut,
> >but he sure keeps a hell of a lot of them more intact than they would
> >otherwise be, and for that I applaud him.
> 
> So in other words he does the exact same thing every other dealer does?
> 
> 
> >By offering to pay for what dealers might offer them?
> 
> no, but forming a high profile public institution who's goal is to raise a 
> whole lot of money and use to to soak up meteorites.
> 
> >No, the Acapulcoite was in Blaine Reed's room.  And it was pretty fresh -
> >not weathered, as you state, the stone that you saw was.
> 
> Maybe our deffinition of weathering isnt the same, but it wasnt an 
> acapulcoite it was a h6. you might be be good at identifying metorites, but 
> I'll take NAU's word over yours in this case.
> 
> >The Ureilites were
> >1) Being carried around one evening by a fellow...Mike Martinez?  Could 
> >have
> >been, but maybe I just saw him a lot during the show...sorry, but it was 
> >six
> >months ago....really not sure......
> >and
> >2) Outside Mike Farmer's room in the possession of a Moroccan fellow.  At
> >the very least you can ask Mike about that one - he should remember it.
> 
> sorry, but this IS the meteorite I was talking about. it certainly wasnt 
> pulled out of some common chonderite bin in tucson. It was broken up by the 
> owner because he couldnt sell it whole. I first got photos of it 11/9/05 it 
> was a flat, roundish stone of 9.3 kg - want me to email you a pic of it 
> whole? dont think it's the same stone? ask Martin Altmann or Blaine
> 
> >And by the way, don't think I can't very easily recognize a meteorite on
> >sight.  I've found 103 meteorites with a few achondrites tossed in, one of
> >which has been classified (Superior Valley 014, an Acapulcoite ;)
> 
> I never suggested that. i only suggested that the story you were told of how 
> a meteorite came to be in tucson might not be accurate, although I'm sure 
> you will agree that not all meteoreites can be accurately identified by 
> simple imspection. nwa 1054 doesnt look much diffrent than an H4/5 after all 
> and it's a winonaite.
> 
> 
> 
> >A) Last I saw, neither were you.  At least I've spoken with a director in
> >depth about these issues, and have had a short word now with the other
> >director as well.
> >B) They state that a portion of meteorites need to be conserved for future
> >studies, yes.  And the $10 mil probably wouldn't be available for spending
> >if it's to be an endowment...sorry to burst your bubble there, but I think
> >it would be legally protected.
> 
> you are speaking about 'probablies' and in definate terms about what the 
> center WONT do - even though you are in no position of authority to do so. 
> i'm more concerned about that the center MIGHT do. see the diffrence?
> 
> 
> >If you think
> >that simply stating my  opinion is badmouthing people, go right ahead an
> >insult me.
> 
> you seemed to go beyond that and imply that the people who liked collecting 
> bessy specs were somehow 'wrong' because they didnt subscribe to the same 
> philosophy as you. at least that was the impression you left me with, and by 
> another email i recived at least 1 more person.
> 
> 
> >I know the intentions of the directors, and personally, I can guarantee you
> >that the sort of wanton buying of everything in sight that you so fear 
> >won't
> >occur.  If that's not good enough for you, I see no reason to continue this
> >argument, because you don't believe what I'm saying in the first place.
> 
> unfortunatly Jason, you cant guarantee anything - you arent int he position 
> to do so - no matter what anyone has told you.
> 
> 
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