[meteorite-list] Two Questions

[MarkF]

Hi Eric and List

Its my understanding that an atmosphere is created as much by volcanism as 
anything else (gravity attracting the gases along with the denser matter 
which makes up a globe, ect).
Via volcanoes, gases like H2 O ,SO2 ,CO2   are all generated during 
volcanism and found in atmospheres, so finding them in mantle rock isn't 
such a hard thing to consider.

Mark Ferguson



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> No, there is no evidence of plate techtonics on Mars and therefor no 
> subduction.
>
> --
> Eric Olson
> ELKK Meteorites
> http://www.star-bits.com
>
>
>> Hi Walter, Eric and List,
>> Would Martian Tectonic forces ie. subduction, be a possible mechanism to
>> trap and transport atmospheric gases into the bowels of the planet, later 
>> to
>> be be contained in a magma chamber?
>> Just an odd thought. Jerry
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>> From: <star-bits at comcast.net>
>> To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 1:26 PM
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Two Questions
>>
>>
>> > Walter Branch wrote:
>> >
>> > <I been researching but I can't find the answers to two questions.
>> >
>> > First, what is the mechanism by which atmospheric gasses
>> > are trapped in the formation of basalts?  I have been doing some
>> > lit reviews on martian meteorites and I find it interesting that some
>> > were formed in magma chambers deep undergound.  indeed, some are
>> > thought to have formed several kilometers down.  How does the
>> > Martian atmosphere get trapped in cooling rock so far underground.>
>> >
>> > Hello Walter
>> >
>> >    The mechanism for trapping gasses in Martian basalts is not entirely
>> > clear.  One method that has been proven is implanting during shock 
>> > events,
>> > such as being blasted off Mars.  However there are some problems with 
>> > this
>> > as well such as sometimes the gasses are fractionated (Kr/Xe ratio 
>> > changes
>> > for instance).  So although impact is likely part of the answer it 
>> > isn't a
>> > clear winner.  Another suggestion is fluid (water) transplant, however 
>> > the
>> > gasses mostly reside in the water unaltered portions so this is likely 
>> > not
>> > the answer.  Trapping of mantle gasses during cooling has been 
>> > suggested,
>> > but mantle reservoirs of gasses should have different ratios than
>> > atmospheric.   So the exact mechanism is undetermined.
>> >
>> > <Second, when determining Cosmic Ray Exposure ages, can atmospheric
>> > fragmentation and ablation of a meteoroid affect the results from such
>> > testing and if so, how are fragmentation and ablation taken into
>> > consideration when determiniing CREs?>
>> >
>> > Yes fragmentation and ablation can affect the results and must be taken
>> > into account.  Cosmic rays generally penetrate 3-10 meters into 
>> > asteroidal
>> > bodies.  Parts buried more than 10 meters or so receive almost no 
>> > cosmic
>> > ray exposure so their CRE age is zero.   If depth isn't taken into 
>> > account
>> > a surface sample would show a older CRE than one at 5 meters.   One 
>> > method
>> > of determining depth is with Neon isotopes which have been shown to 
>> > have a
>> > constant relationship with burial depth and cosmic ray exposure.  So 
>> > the
>> > neon can be used to determine depth and the other elemental isotopes 
>> > can
>> > then be adusted for depth to give the CRE age.
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Eric Olson
>> > ELKK Meteorites
>> > http://www.star-bits.com
>> >
>> >
>> >> Second try at posting this email:
>> >>
>> >> Hello Everyone,
>> >>
>> >> I been researching but I can't find the answers to two questions.
>> >>
>> >> First, what is the mechanism by which atmospheric gasses
>> >> are trapped in the formation of basalts?  I have been doing some
>> >> lit reviews on martian meteorites and I find it interesting that some
>> >> were formed in magma chambers deep undergound.  indeed, some are
>> >> thought to have formed several kilometers down.  How does the
>> >> Martian atmosphere get trapped in cooling rock so far underground.
>> >>
>> >> Second, when determining Cosmic Ray Exposure ages, can atmospheric
>> >> fragmentation and ablation of a meteoroid affect the results from such
>> >> testing and if so, how are fragmentation and ablation taken into
>> >> consideration when determiniing CREs?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks to anyone who can help me understand these processes.
>> >>
>> >> -Walter Branch
>> >>
>> >>
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