[meteorite-list] Water in Meteorites

[Adam Hupe]

Dear List,

Scientists reported fluid trains in the olivine of NWA 969 which I had a
chance to see under a very high powered microscope.  They looked like
bubbles that you would see tailing a scuba diver underwater arranged in
groups or fluid trains as reported to the NomCom during classification.  I
do not know if these contain water or some liquefied gas under high pressure
hence the question mark in our auctions.  What is needed is a freezing stage
on a microscope to see what temperature they solidify.  I was told, it is
not that uncommon to find these fluid trains in terrestrial olivine that
contain water, you just need to know what to look for.

Kind Regards,

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Adam Hupe
The Hupe Collection
Team LunarRock
IMCA 2185
raremeteorites at comcast.net


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marc Fries" <m.fries at gl.ciw.edu>
To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Water in Meteorites


> Howdy
>
>    I scored a piece of that meteorite and had it made into three thin
> sections.  I've looked at a couple of dozen likely inclusions with our
> snazzy new Raman imaging device and didn't find an iota of water.  I
> don't think there's any to be found.  It is known that glassy
> inclusions in meteorites contain a high vacuum, and it seems far more
> likely to me that someone came across a cracked inclusion full of
> cutting fluid than a recrystallized asteroidal sample that contains
> water.
>
> Cheers,
> MDF
>
> > "There are only two meteorites known to contain liquid water:
> >
> > - Monahans
> > - Zag
> >
> > What about the Hupe's NWA969 LL7 Meteorite Containing Bottled Water?
> >
> > Thanks, Tom
> > peregrineflier <><
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <bernd.pauli at paulinet.de>
> > To: <Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 1:35 PM
> > Subject: [meteorite-list] Water in Meteorites
> >
> >
> >> Tom inquired:
> >>
> >> > It sure makes me wonder how they could keep space water
> >> > in them if they were not picked up immediately after the fall?
> >>
> >> Because they do not contain *l i q u i d*  water. The water found
> >> in carbonaceous chondrites and Martian meteorites can only be
> >> extracted by heating the meteorite samples.
> >>
> >> There are only two meteorites known to contain liquid water:
> >>
> >> - Monahans
> >> - Zag
> >>
> >> where the water was found in salt crystals inside these meteorites.
> >>
> >> see also Chris L Peterson's post to the List!
> >>
> >> Best wishes,
> >>
> >> Bernd
> >>
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