[meteorite-list] Tucson 05 Retrospective

M come Meteorite Meteorites mcomemeteorite2004 at yahoo.it
Wed Feb 16 12:19:21 EST 2005


Its the time De Russe go out from the world of the
meteorites....with her fakes its under ruin the
reputation of many scientific persons

Matteo


 --- Michael Farmer <meteoritehunter at comcast.net> ha
scritto: 
> Mr DeRusse,
> I just found a Lunar meteorite, I am not sure how
> things could get much 
> better, my chin is up, my spirits high, and I highly
> doubt the Dean of TCU 
> could ever say anything like that about Dr Ehlmann.
> In fact, I do believe I 
> will contact the dean today, to see whether what you
> say is true.
> Department of Geology
> Texas Christian University
> TCU Box 298830
> Fort Worth, Texas 76129
> Phone: (817) 257-7270
> Fax: (817) 257-7789
> Dr. Richard Hanson, Chair
> 
> Above is the information for the Dean of Geology at
> TCU.
> Perhaps we shoudl all contact him and see it mr fake
> meteorite is telling 
> the truth?
> My money is on lying.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "S. Ray DeRusse" <srd at ispwest.com>
> To: "Michael Farmer" <meteoritehunter at comcast.net>
> Cc: "Meteorite List"
> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 9:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 05
> Retrospective
> 
> 
> >
> > Now Now Now Mr. Farmer;
> >    There is no need for name calling. You seem to
> have quite a bit of 
> > anger derived from being confronted with unsavory
> facts. We're just 
> > reporting what was conveyed to us from the TCU
> geology department dean. We 
> > did not say Mr. Ehlmann was  not a nice person to
> you.  In fact we do not 
> > agree with much of what the dean said to us about
> him, but the dean has a 
> > different opinion obviously from experience. Our
> experience is related and 
> > somewhat different, well documented, and
> verifiable. Your anger has quite 
> > a grip on you but unfortunately this is not enough
> to change the facts. 
> > Keep your chin up Mr. Farmer things will get
> better eventually.
> >
> > Cordially,
> >
> > S. Ray DeRusse
> > www.bccmeteorites.com
> >
>
____________________________________________________________________________________________
> > Michael Farmer wrote:
> >
> >> Now I know that you are a bitter piece of filth
> who doesn't have a 
> >> meteorite and it lashing out at the world for it.
> >> Dr Ehlmann is the nicest man in the world, and
> knows meteorites better 
> >> than you can imagine, he has curated one of the
> worlds finest collections 
> >> for decades.
> >> Why don't you just fade away, and lock yourself
> and your "meteorites" in 
> >> a cave for a while? Bitterness and hatefulness
> (and lawsuits) will not 
> >> turn your crappy rocks into meteorites, no matter
> how much you wish.
> >> Sincerely
> >> Mike Farmer
> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "S. Ray
> DeRusse" <srd at ispwest.com>
> >> To: "Notkin" <geoking at notkin.net>
> >> Cc: "Meteorite List"
> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 10:21 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 05
> Retrospective
> >>
> >>
> >>> Greetings List;
> >>>
> >>>    Well, imagine our surprise when we read the
> thread below. I had a 
> >>> personal conversation with the Dean of the TCU
> geology department in 
> >>> which he informed me that among other things,
> Dr. Ehlmann was "barely a 
> >>> geologist and not a very good one at that". He
> also called him, "an old 
> >>> man just waiting to retire," just a menial
> curator of a meteorite 
> >>> collection doing no real research". He said more
> but I don't necessarily 
> >>> agree with everything he Dean said. But it
> matters not much since in my 
> >>> view this award has very little meaning attached
> to it because of the 
> >>> group handing it out. Was there some sort of
> election or nomination 
> >>> procedure involved or posted somewhere? How does
> this little favoritism 
> >>> scheme and showering of affection work for a
> group who even his 
> >>> colleague has bad mouthed him this way. Did you
> include the Dean's 
> >>> viewpoint ? Or did you gather together willy
> nilly to keep misconduct 
> >>> and racism  a fertile nesting ground in
> planetary science?
> >>>
> >>> Cordially,
> >>> S. Ray DeRusse and Bill Cutler
> >>> www.bccmeteorites.com
> >>>
>
____________________________________________________________________________________________
> >>>
> >>> Notkin wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Dear Friends and Listees:
> >>>>
> >>>> I've come up for air after a long and sometimes
> exhausting Tucson show. 
> >>>> This was my first show as a legal resident of
> the great state of 
> >>>> Arizona and it was a very different experience
> for me. I had a house 
> >>>> full of overnight guests, hosted the big
> birthday bash, met with 
> >>>> clients, acted as Allan Lang's auctioneer,
> bought and traded for a few 
> >>>> collection pieces, and generally ran around
> like a lunatic taking care 
> >>>> of a million things for nearly three weeks. I
> think it was more fun 
> >>>> when I used come out here for a vacation each
> February . . . but then I 
> >>>> had to go back to New York afterwards, and that
> part wasn't so fun 
> >>>>   : )
> >>>>
> >>>> I'd like to sincerely thank all of you who
> joined Steve Arnold IMB and 
> >>>> myself for the Sixth Annual Meteor Mayhem party
> and Harvey Awards. The 
> >>>> consensus was that the new venue (The Copper
> Club, inside the Arizona 
> >>>> Plaza) was a HUGE improvement over previous
> venues, and I agree. Our 
> >>>> many guests were able to move around and
> socialize, instead of being 
> >>>> pinned behind a crowded restaurant table, while
> experiencing lousy 
> >>>> waiter service . . . and Steve and I certainly
> enjoyed having a stage 
> >>>> from which to present the Harvey Awards. We
> will return to the Copper 
> >>>> Club next year if the hotel remains open.
> >>>>
> >>>> Congrats to the 2005 Harvey Award winners:
> >>>>
> >>>> Dr. Art Ehlmann  --  Lifetime achievement
> >>>> Michael Blood  --  Ambassador award
> >>>> Mike Miller  --  Best new meteorite find
> >>>> Ruben Garcia  --  Best new meteorite find
> >>>> Sonny Clary  --  Rookie of the year!
> >>>> Jose Guggiari  --  Best new meteorite find
> >>>> Edwin "E.T." Thompson  --  Lifetime achievement
> >>>>
> >>>> And remember, you don't have to be "old" to
> receive a lifetime 
> >>>> achievement award  : )  There are many other
> deserving people in our 
> >>>> community, so stay tuned for next year's
> awards!
> >>>>
> >>>> Low point of the show this year was when
> somebody stole one of our 
> >>>> Harvey Awards, while they were on display prior
> to the awards ceremony. 
> >>>> It was somewhat embarrassing that -- thanks to
> our thief -- we did not 
> >>>> have an award to give to our final recipient
> (E.T.), but I was able to 
> >>>> make another one, and deliver it to E.T.'s room
> before he left for 
> >>>> Oregon. I know that Harveys are something of a
> hot item, but COME ON 
> >>>> that's pretty low. We're going to make a
> special "Jackass of the Year" 
> >>>> certificate for the person who stole the award,
> and 
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