[meteorite-list] Tucson 05 Retrospective

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its type when you have take in turn Dr.A.Rubin where
you have say not work well only why he have say your
material its a fake?

Matteo


 --- "S. Ray DeRusse" <srd at ispwest.com> ha scritto: 
> 
> Now Now Now Mr. Farmer;
>     There is no need for name calling. You seem to
> have quite a bit of 
> anger derived from being confronted with unsavory
> facts. We're just 
> reporting what was conveyed to us from the TCU
> geology department dean. 
> We did not say Mr. Ehlmann was  not a nice person to
> you.  In fact we do 
> not agree with much of what the dean said to us
> about him, but the dean 
> has a different opinion obviously from experience.
> Our experience is 
> related and somewhat different, well documented, and
> verifiable. Your 
> anger has quite a grip on you but unfortunately this
> is not enough to 
> change the facts. Keep your chin up Mr. Farmer
> things will get better 
> eventually.
> 
> Cordially,
> 
> S. Ray DeRusse
> www.bccmeteorites.com
>
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> Michael Farmer wrote:
> 
> > Now I know that you are a bitter piece of filth
> who doesn't have a 
> > meteorite and it lashing out at the world for it.
> > Dr Ehlmann is the nicest man in the world, and
> knows meteorites better 
> > than you can imagine, he has curated one of the
> worlds finest 
> > collections for decades.
> > Why don't you just fade away, and lock yourself
> and your "meteorites" 
> > in a cave for a while? Bitterness and hatefulness
> (and lawsuits) will 
> > not turn your crappy rocks into meteorites, no
> matter how much you wish.
> > Sincerely
> > Mike Farmer
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "S. Ray
> DeRusse" <srd at ispwest.com>
> > To: "Notkin" <geoking at notkin.net>
> > Cc: "Meteorite List"
> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 10:21 PM
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 05
> Retrospective
> >
> >
> >> Greetings List;
> >>
> >>    Well, imagine our surprise when we read the
> thread below. I had a 
> >> personal conversation with the Dean of the TCU
> geology department in 
> >> which he informed me that among other things, Dr.
> Ehlmann was "barely 
> >> a geologist and not a very good one at that". He
> also called him, "an 
> >> old man just waiting to retire," just a menial
> curator of a meteorite 
> >> collection doing no real research". He said more
> but I don't 
> >> necessarily agree with everything he Dean said.
> But it matters not 
> >> much since in my view this award has very little
> meaning attached to 
> >> it because of the group handing it out. Was there
> some sort of 
> >> election or nomination procedure involved or
> posted somewhere? How 
> >> does this little favoritism scheme and showering
> of affection work 
> >> for a group who even his colleague has bad
> mouthed him this way. Did 
> >> you include the Dean's viewpoint ? Or did you
> gather together willy 
> >> nilly to keep misconduct and racism  a fertile
> nesting ground in 
> >> planetary science?
> >>
> >> Cordially,
> >> S. Ray DeRusse and Bill Cutler
> >> www.bccmeteorites.com
> >>
>
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> 
> >>
> >>
> >> Notkin wrote:
> >>
> >>> Dear Friends and Listees:
> >>>
> >>> I've come up for air after a long and sometimes
> exhausting Tucson 
> >>> show. This was my first show as a legal resident
> of the great state 
> >>> of Arizona and it was a very different
> experience for me. I had a 
> >>> house full of overnight guests, hosted the big
> birthday bash, met 
> >>> with clients, acted as Allan Lang's auctioneer,
> bought and traded 
> >>> for a few collection pieces, and generally ran
> around like a lunatic 
> >>> taking care of a million things for nearly three
> weeks. I think it 
> >>> was more fun when I used come out here for a
> vacation each February 
> >>> . . . but then I had to go back to New York
> afterwards, and that 
> >>> part wasn't so fun   : )
> >>>
> >>> I'd like to sincerely thank all of you who
> joined Steve Arnold IMB 
> >>> and myself for the Sixth Annual Meteor Mayhem
> party and Harvey 
> >>> Awards. The consensus was that the new venue
> (The Copper Club, 
> >>> inside the Arizona Plaza) was a HUGE improvement
> over previous 
> >>> venues, and I agree. Our many guests were able
> to move around and 
> >>> socialize, instead of being pinned behind a
> crowded restaurant 
> >>> table, while experiencing lousy waiter service .
> . . and Steve and I 
> >>> certainly enjoyed having a stage from which to
> present the Harvey 
> >>> Awards. We will return to the Copper Club next
> year if the hotel 
> >>> remains open.
> >>>
> >>> Congrats to the 2005 Harvey Award winners:
> >>>
> >>> Dr. Art Ehlmann  --  Lifetime achievement
> >>> Michael Blood  --  Ambassador award
> >>> Mike Miller  --  Best new meteorite find
> >>> Ruben Garcia  --  Best new meteorite find
> >>> Sonny Clary  --  Rookie of the year!
> >>> Jose Guggiari  --  Best new meteorite find
> >>> Edwin "E.T." Thompson  --  Lifetime achievement
> >>>
> >>> And remember, you don't have to be "old" to
> receive a lifetime 
> >>> achievement award  : )  There are many other
> deserving people in our 
> >>> community, so stay tuned for next year's awards!
> >>>
> >>> Low point of the show this year was when
> somebody stole one of our 
> >>> Harvey Awards, while they were on display prior
> to the awards 
> >>> ceremony. It was somewhat embarrassing that --
> thanks to our thief 
> >>> -- we did not have an award to give to our final
> recipient (E.T.), 
> >>> but I was able to make another one, and deliver
> it to E.T.'s room 
> >>> before he left for Oregon. I know that Harveys
> are something of a 
> >>> hot item, but COME ON that's pretty low. We're
> going to make a 
> >>> special "Jackass of the Year" certificate for
> the person who stole 
> >>> the award, and we'll leave it out on the table
> next year, so be sure 
> >>> to steal that too. Thanks.
> >>>
> >>> On a more positive note, I'd like to thank Twink
> & Larry Monrad and 
> >>> Jim Kriegh for the stunning Gold Basin panorama
> birthday cake, which 
> >>> they very kindly brought to the party. This
> year's cake was the best 
> >>> ever. Also, thanks to my co-host Steve Arnold
> IMB, and my great 
> >>> friend Geoff Cintron who did everything from act
> as chauffeur to 
> >>> buying us drinks during the awards; and Lisa
> Marie Morrison of 
> >>> Sirocco Design, a very talented jewelry
> designer, who served as our 
> >>> glamorous hostess *and* absentee bid agent
> during the R.A. 
> >>> Langheinrich auction.
> >>>
> >>> As always, Michael Blood's auction was a great
> event (I came home 
> >>> with the one piece I really wanted) and bigger
> than ever this year. 
> >>> Allan Lang's auction on the Sunday was a success
> too, and I shocked 
> >>> everyone by showing up in a suit and tie. Well,
> once a year with the 
> 
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