[meteorite-list] The Scorpion and the Turtle wasList policiesand ad posts thoughts

[David Freeman mjwy]

Dear All,
Elton has  a very good point there.  Ssteve is a horses you know what. 
 A blight to collectors and dealers. Ssorry to aafend Ssteve Ffollowers! 
 Sstooges...

Dave F.

Dawn & Gerald Flaherty wrote:

>Well Elton, your accomplished prose succeeded in driving me to read THE
>WHOLE THING!
>Jerry
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>From: "E. L. Jones" <jonee at epix.net>
>To: "AL Mitterling" <almitt at kconline.com>
>Cc: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 2:33 PM
>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The Scorpion and the Turtle wasList
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>>AL Mitterling wrote:
>>Hi Robert, Jerry and list,
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>> >Might I suggest?? dividing the list into areas of interests. We could
>>have topics like: Meteorite Information, Meteorite >Questions, Meteorite
>>discussion, Meteorite AD's, New Members Area, etc. and so forth. (other
>>ideas would be up to list >members)
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>> This can be the Meteorite Fables, complete with morals and talking
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>>Or how about we just shun the aberrant personality until he leaves for
>>good? Boycott buying and selling to him and he might find another
>>community to self destruct in.  I still remember the wenching Joel
>>Warren brought to this group.  this Sscorpion is more damaging.
>>
>>It isn't "ads" per se, it is that the integrity of the community is
>>breeched by a personality that holds himself as an honest, uprigh,
>>leading member of the community and to my knowledge has NEVER kept his
>>word on anything EVER posted to the list-and 90% of what goes on off the
>>list. That is am impressive track record for someone who has over 800
>>posts to the list.  The list isn't any different from real life--The
>>members desire to associate only with persons of integrity and who they
>>feel safe with and who isn't taking advantage of their hospitality.
>>Some of those members are beginning to vote with their feet.  I may soon
>>join them.  I happen to believe that you don't drop your guard around
>>philosophical scorpions you'll be prey of you'll spend most of you
>>energy defending friends from being preyed upon
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>>My objections are the repeated pattern of unethical behavior , mind game
>>manipulation, and the theft of enjoyment he brings to the community
>>using WWF Smackdown Tactics of playing everyone off against another.
>>Some people aren't happy unless they can influence the way of things and
>>this particular individual choses to do so by destroying and
>>disrupting-- He is a scorpion it is just his nature.  It always has been
>>and always will be--it is just his nature--it- is -j u s t-- h i s --n a
>>t u r e.. It isn't going to change.  This Sscorpion doesn't act with
>>malice, it is just his way, it is the standard he lives by and It is
>>nothing personal-- it is just who and what he is.
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>>Sstamp out Sscorpions!
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>>Elton
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>>For those unfamiliar with the fable...
>>The Sscorpion and the Turtle...(adaptation by EJ)
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>>In rising tide waters a turtle was preparing to raft the whole community
>>of creatures on MetList-island  to another shore when the group was
>>approached by a scorpion for a ride  too.  The turtle is taken back for
>>he knows of the deadly insidious ven-AD-om of the arachnid-- he has seen
>>the scorpion often inject others with his ven-AD-om  All his life he was
>>taught to avoid the beast and his kind for their treachery was well known.
>>
>>"Ahem.... Dear Turtle! ole buddy! ole pal...how about a piggy-back ride
>>to dry land lest I drown?  I am a lowly innocent loving caring,  team
>>player amongst the creatures here on MetList-Island ! I am generous
>>beyond imagination, and in spite of my appearances  I assure you I am
>>harmless...A true leader amongst purveyors of phony  er  precious pieces
>>of plasmasphere particles ...Why.. you hear from me daily so you
>>shouldn't have any worrys about me and my reputation--Surely You don't
>>pay attention to the things you've read about my private behaviors " as
>>he preened his pinchers and thought to himself.." How can anyone resist
>>my Cc-charm?  I am sooo coooool and these are chumps for the picking if
>>you suck up to them"
>>
>>Shaking his head no, Turtle speaks up..."Oh No! Sscorpion.  If I gave
>>you a ride and you stung me in the river we'd all die.  And you are
>>certainly preceded by your reputation over and over again. The older
>>turtles who started this island have often spoken of the risk and urged
>>me to never associate with Sscorpions."
>>
>>"Ah my Dear Turtle, ole buddy, dearest friend..I can see I can't fool
>>you...Yes I was once a piggish brute but I promise I'll never be that
>>way again-- cross my heart and hope to die..Why if I am not who I say I
>>am...I banish myself from this community!  But you wouldn't want me to
>>be left here alone and without friends.  Why even if I have been a
>>piggish  cad , a egotistical heel, a sycophant  lier AND have broken
>>every deal I have ever uttered and have never done pentance...I promise
>>I'd never ever harm you...I am changed-- You are one of my Sspecial
>>friends. You CAN tust me THIS time.  I'll trade ya this lovely morsel of
>>starrock...if you'll like me and give me a free lunch    er free ride to
>>dryer ground"  he seductively whispered.  "Frankly, I am totally
>>misunderstood and am persecuted without reason." Sscorpion confided to
>>all that wouls listen.  "I really need your sympathy and
>>understanding."  "How about a ride? ", he presses.  " My Ven-AD-om is
>>harmless and it really isn't my choice it is just what I am...  you
>>don't have to take it if you choose not to-- just walk around it and
>>stay clear of my sPAMtinger when you see it swinging.  It isn't my
>>responsibility to control its gyrations-- afterall this is a free
>>country, well at least I am not paying for it.. tee.hee hee and I can
>>let it swing where it wishes Nana naa naaaa naaaa--it is just who I am
>>("delete it if you are not interested" echos off a nearby clift).  The
>>sPAMinger is simply an annoyance, it is how I eak a living, it is
>>harmless-- in and of itself  but I need to ego feed daily --it is just
>>who I am."
>>
>>"No can do!  If you were  broke your word, I risk death to me and to all
>>my friends"  your ven-AD-om numbs the brain and sucks the joy from me
>>and the stupor it brings would cause me to lose my strength and desire
>>to carry on --  in water that is an assured death!  Being around your
>>fumes is harmful to me.  I have to stay in my shell most of the time to
>>avoid your sPAMtinger."
>>
>>With eyebrow raised, smirking mandable to mandable, Sscoripon looks his
>>mark straight in the eye and says.." Yes but I give away star rocks!
>>You love star rocks don't you?"  Please give me a ride, Special
>>Friend?"  I promise I'll behave like the rest of the friendly turtles,
>>you won't even know I am around."
>>
>>The other members on the  ride were divided.  Many who had been savaged
>>by the Sscorpion's past treachery were firm in the danger to them all if
>>the Sscorpion was allowed along.--expressing that if Sscorpion staid
>>they would have to go elsewheres.  But a few more scoffed.."Ahh  what
>>harm could he really do? Turtles' have a hard shell anyway...  Aww come
>>on give him a ride". The words were confusing to Turtle...but in the end
>>the vocal minority won out and convinced Turtle to take Sscorpion
>>along.  Against his better judgment ,Turtle was persuaded to ferry the
>>parasitic Sscorpion to another shore.  Thirty minutes later in
>>midwater,  Turtle starts believeing Sscorpion-- lulled by  Sscorpion's
>>"passion", "enthusiasm", and child-like demeanor. " Awwww someone this
>>sweet can't really be harmful.  I'll trust him this once and give the
>>fella a hitch" thinks , Turtle.
>>
>>Midway across , Turtel feels the thrashing of of the
>>stinger...wham..wham wham.  Horrified betrayed and bewildered the turtle
>>eyes the Sscorpion and asked.."Why  did you do that? You promised you
>>wouldn't sting me...now we are all going to die".
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>>"I know"  said Sscorpion without concern , remorse, or awareness of
>>danger to the whole community he hath wrought " I know..." ..then
>>another attack Wham- wham- wham... he stings again...  Beyond belief,
>>Turtle again asked "Why did you break your promise? You knew if you
>>stung me we all would die, You've destroyed us all....Why....?"
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>>Sscorpion only shrugs his sshoulders and without remorse  or emotion
>>says.."  I couldn't help myself, nothing personal...it is just my nature
>>, it is who I am"
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>>When you assocate with Sscorpions-- knowing their behavior never
>>changes  it is not IF but WHEN you'll fall prey even if it takes you
>>both down.
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