[meteorite-list] OT: HOW MANY PLANETS?

Norm Lehrman nlehrman at nvbell.net
Wed Aug 3 19:41:52 EDT 2005


Doug, Sterling, and all you other amazing brains,

(Deity or planetary name of your choice), it's good to
to listen to you guys with IQs in the clouds.  Some
people do word-searches or crosswords to exercize
their brains.  For some of us, it's the MetList.

Thanks  (and Garcias to you, Doug---)
Norm
http://tektitesource.com 



--- MexicoDoug at aol.com wrote:

> Ron B. wrote:
> 
> >Incidently, if you demote Pluto from being a
> planet, then  the
> >definition for a planet becomes much easier.  If
> you  include
> >Pluto as a planet, then the definition is going to 
> get
> >more complicated.
>  
> Complicated it can be, not dumbed down, with or
> without  Pluto.  Arbitrary 
> numerical criteria are useless to science in the
> long run  whether they be "9 
> units", "20 degrees" or "3025 miles".  They are more
>  like taxing authorities 
> saying..."if you own more than 20% of the company's 
> stock, you must make 
> special declarations".  That is a foolish angle for 
> the IAU to put itself in, and 
> more typical of the thinking of mediocre  government
> employees or bureacrats 
> looking to reduce their workloads (not that  we
> aren't all guilty at times).
>  
> My personal thoughts of a planet rely on a permanent
> atmosphere  or proven or 
> potential geological process (major igneous
> activity,  liberally considered) 
> basis and prime orbit about the Sun.  If Earth 
> suddenly was catapulted into a 
> 25 degree inclination ...would it cease being a 
> planet?  Perhaps my 
> definition even excludes Pluto by not for a
> senseless  inclination cutoff, especially 
> after its hypothetical encounter with Neptune  sent
> it there, or perhaps not.  
> Vesta is always as bright or brighter than  Neptune,
> and occasionally trumps 
> Uranus, so something is out of wack  here...the
> ancients would have called 
> Vesta a wanderer if they didn't carelessly  overlook
> documenting it.  (It owes 
> that brightness to 'geo'logical  processes, namely
> the reflectivity of eucrite.)
>  
> If Earth were catapulted into the Kuiper Belt would
> it cease being a  planet? 
>  Wait until an Earth sized ball is found out
> there...How about  
> Differentiated Planets, Gaseous Planets, and Frozen
> Planets to replace the  "inner" and 
> "outer" planets?  Remember - for minor planets, a
> comet for all  practical 
> purposes becomes an asteroid - but it is still a
> minor planet,  under current use...
> Kids can still memorize the Inner, Gaseous and Pluto
> (because Pluto is  
> sometimes closer than Neptune, a very very important
> criterion from an earthly  
> viewpoint of numbering successively the billiard
> balls starting with  the bright 
> white cue, and all you have to do is say the first 9
> planets  out..)
> Saludos, Doug
>  
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