[meteorite-list] OT: HOW MANY PLANETS?
Norm Lehrman
nlehrman at nvbell.net
Wed Aug 3 19:41:52 EDT 2005
Doug, Sterling, and all you other amazing brains,
(Deity or planetary name of your choice), it's good to
to listen to you guys with IQs in the clouds. Some
people do word-searches or crosswords to exercize
their brains. For some of us, it's the MetList.
Thanks (and Garcias to you, Doug---)
Norm
http://tektitesource.com
--- MexicoDoug at aol.com wrote:
> Ron B. wrote:
>
> >Incidently, if you demote Pluto from being a
> planet, then the
> >definition for a planet becomes much easier. If
> you include
> >Pluto as a planet, then the definition is going to
> get
> >more complicated.
>
> Complicated it can be, not dumbed down, with or
> without Pluto. Arbitrary
> numerical criteria are useless to science in the
> long run whether they be "9
> units", "20 degrees" or "3025 miles". They are more
> like taxing authorities
> saying..."if you own more than 20% of the company's
> stock, you must make
> special declarations". That is a foolish angle for
> the IAU to put itself in, and
> more typical of the thinking of mediocre government
> employees or bureacrats
> looking to reduce their workloads (not that we
> aren't all guilty at times).
>
> My personal thoughts of a planet rely on a permanent
> atmosphere or proven or
> potential geological process (major igneous
> activity, liberally considered)
> basis and prime orbit about the Sun. If Earth
> suddenly was catapulted into a
> 25 degree inclination ...would it cease being a
> planet? Perhaps my
> definition even excludes Pluto by not for a
> senseless inclination cutoff, especially
> after its hypothetical encounter with Neptune sent
> it there, or perhaps not.
> Vesta is always as bright or brighter than Neptune,
> and occasionally trumps
> Uranus, so something is out of wack here...the
> ancients would have called
> Vesta a wanderer if they didn't carelessly overlook
> documenting it. (It owes
> that brightness to 'geo'logical processes, namely
> the reflectivity of eucrite.)
>
> If Earth were catapulted into the Kuiper Belt would
> it cease being a planet?
> Wait until an Earth sized ball is found out
> there...How about
> Differentiated Planets, Gaseous Planets, and Frozen
> Planets to replace the "inner" and
> "outer" planets? Remember - for minor planets, a
> comet for all practical
> purposes becomes an asteroid - but it is still a
> minor planet, under current use...
> Kids can still memorize the Inner, Gaseous and Pluto
> (because Pluto is
> sometimes closer than Neptune, a very very important
> criterion from an earthly
> viewpoint of numbering successively the billiard
> balls starting with the bright
> white cue, and all you have to do is say the first 9
> planets out..)
> Saludos, Doug
>
>
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