AW: [meteorite-list] Sale - Howardite Blow Out

[Jörn Koblitz]

Calcalong Creek is a striking example indeed. Also, consider the existent overlapping strewnfields of some Omani lunar meteorites. And if one takes into account, that EVERY single meteorite fragment collected in Antarctica (ANSMET) - even in the case that it physically fits together with others -  gets its unique designation, it is just reasonable to follow the NomCom rules here.

Jörn Koblitz


> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: JKG [mailto:h3chondrite at cox.net]
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. September 2004 17:43
> An: Michael Farmer; Jim Strope; Meteorite List
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Sale - Howardite Blow Out
> 
> 
> Think about it folks, Calcalong Creek could be sitting in someone's 
> collection with a Millbillillie label on it.  Fortunately, 
> Haag noticed a 
> bit of a difference between it and the other meteorites he 
> purchased in 
> Australia.
> 
> During the NWA number debate of last week or so, I agreed 
> with Adam.  Now I 
> agree with Mike.  The meteorites of NWA come with several 
> problems that are 
> unique as Mike has stated.  We.....somebody....needs to do 
> something to 
> standardize the process and procedure that NWA's must go 
> through to be 
> legitimized.  Mike is correct - there appears to be a double standard 
> here.  Anyone got some ideas on how to solve the problem?
> 
> JKG
> 
> At 08:10 AM 9/23/2004, Michael Farmer wrote:
> >Yes Jim, it wasn't pretty.
> >The part about falls and finds was discussed. There is no 
> need to classify
> >every piece of those meteorites like Gao or Sikhote-Alin as 
> they are from a
> >compact area, and are distinctive enough to lack the need for further
> >classification.
> >     When it comes to meteorite mass-concentration areas 
> like North Africa
> >and Oman, then the need for further classification is 
> necessary. Obviously
> >if you are hunting and find them all together, that would be 
> one meteorite,
> >but when buying in the markets there, then everything is 
> mixed up, some
> >paired meteorites being sold in cities 400 miles apart! That 
> makes for some
> >very confusing classification problems.
> >Mike Farmer
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Jim Strope" <jim at catchafallingstar.com>
> >To: "Meteorite List" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> >Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 8:05 AM
> >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Sale - Howardite Blow Out
> >
> >
> > > You should have been in Denver, Mike.   You would have 
> been shocked to see
> > > how much uncut "NWA 1929" was being sold at low prices.
> > >
> > > I am glad that I wasn't on the list the last month to 
> witness the fighting
> > > over numbers.  Perhaps, each newly found Sikhote-alin 
> should have it's own
> > > new name assigned????   Or the new Glorietta?   Or the 
> new Campo? ETC.
> >ETC.
> > > ETC.
> > >
> > > Jim Strope
> > > 421 Fourth Street
> > > Glen Dale, WV  26038
> > >
> > > http://www.catchafallingstar.com
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Michael Farmer" <meteoritehunter at comcast.net>
> > > To: "Rob Wesel" <nakhladog at comcast.net>; "Meteorite List"
> > > <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 10:45 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Sale - Howardite Blow Out
> > >
> > >
> > > > This one confuses me.
> > > > We had a large fight and discussion just last week, 
> where the Hupes and
> >Dr
> > > > Jeff Grossman said that pairings must be made 
> scientifically and when
> >the
> > > > nomenclature committee denote a number for a meteorite, 
> it is for that
> > > > meteorite that the number is reserved, no others.
> > > > NWA 1929 was my meteorite, and it was a single individual.
> > > > I had it classified by Dr Bunch.
> > > > It now seems that people are selling other meteorites 
> under my number,
> > > > including the Hupes? How is this possible? Complete 
> individuals? Then
> >they
> > > > have not been cut.
> > > > Why the double standard? How does anyone know these 
> uncut meteorites are
> > > NWA
> > > > 1929? Why were they all suddenly found a year after I 
> bought NWA 1929 in
> > > > Morocco?
> > > > I am a little confused about this, if other meteorites 
> can not be paired
> > > as
> > > > stated by the Hupes so adamantly, then how is NWA 1929 
> immune to the
> >same
> > > > treatment?
> > > > This is not directed at Adam, he is just the one who 
> last week had a
> >huge
> > > > fight with Bob Evans over this, and now it seems that 
> other people are
> > > going
> > > > to town with my meteorite number.
> > > > Anyone care to tell me how all of these meteorites are 
> no NWA 1929?
> > > >
> > > > Michael Farmer
> > > /meteorite-list
> > >
> > >
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