[meteorite-list] AW: [ I.M.C.A. ] Re: [Fwd: S. Ray DeRusse...]

Sat Nov 20 06:20:35 EST 2004

Matteo,

it's not that JPL could "eliminate this person forever" or close his
site.

I suggest you hire a lawyer and do it yourself, but I think that the
chances are not the best, actually. You could spend a lot of money with
little outcome.

Bernhard

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: M come Meteorite Meteorites [mailto:mcomemeteorite2004 at yahoo.it] 
Gesendet: Samstag, 20. November 2004 07:55
An: Pekka Savolainen; Steve Schoner
Cc: ken at imca.cc; meteoritecollectorsassociation at yahoogroups.com
Betreff: Re: [ I.M.C.A. ] Re: [Fwd: S. Ray DeRusse...]

Its the time to eliminated this person forever, write all to JPL for ask
to close the site of this idiot. I have write yesterday, and I have been
inform my lawyer and well I can denounce this idiot for libel.

Matteo

Pekka Savolainen <pekka.savolainen at dlc.fi> wrote:

Thank you, Steve,

that was what I thought, just wanted to let you know,
he seems to use your name on his site. This is not
very nice, excpecially at the moment, your health is
the best it could be.

Perhaps Ken could ask Mr. DaRusse to remove this
nonsense from his site? The same person also uses
DMS (Dutch Meteor Society) material on his sites,
and I have informed Marco Langbroek about this.

Don´t have words to say, what I´m thinking about
the way, Mr. DaRusse uses the names / material of
the people without permission or even the people
don´t know, their name / material is used, sad and
discusting.

Steve, try to manage with your health, life is sometimes,
what it is, but anyway.

best regards and have a nice weekend,

pekka s

Steve Schoner wrote:

>Ken, Pekka, et al,
>
>???
>
>What is this ????
>
>As far as I remember I made no agreement with Ray
>DeRusse other than to trade a sample of Takysie Lake
>for some of his so called "stellar grains."  I have
>made no conclusion on these samples, nor at this time
>do I intend to do any work with these as to ascertain
>what they are.
>
>No agreement, financial, scientific or otherwise was
>implied in the transaction which was in 2002 before I
>became disabled in Jan. 2003. As I remember it was a
>simple trade for a questionable meteorite (stellar
>grains) for a questionable meteorite (Takysie Lake)--
>the question of both which is still in question.
>
>Furthermore I am "silent" regarding this not to
>"protect the scientists." I don't know where that idea
>comes from, and it is certainly not mine, I might add.
>
>My "silence" is due to the fact that I am dealing with
>major health issues.  I have very little time now to
>deal with meteorites, the MetList or any meteorite
>endeavors, so, that said, I am not even going to get
>involved in this dispute.  Since my near fatal brain
>illness, I am simply too ill to deal with such.
>
>Steve Schoner.
>
>
>
>--- "ken at imca.cc" <ken at imca.cc> wrote:
>
>
>---------------------------------
>    
>
>-------- Original Message --------            Subject:
>      S. Ray DeRusse...              Date:       Sat,
>20 Nov 2004 00:29:41 +0200              From:      
>Pekka Savolainen <pekka.savolainen at dlc.fi>            
> To:      
>meteoritecollectorsassociation at yahoogroups.com,
>steve at imca.cc      
>
>
>Well, I´d be glad to have your comment for this,
>Steve...;-"The person above (pekka s)  is implying
>that we used the above writings in italics (box) to
>fabricate having received a Takysie Lake sample from
>Steve Shoner. Below is one of Mr. Shoner's envelopes.
>We don't have to engage in fraud and wishful thinking
>Mr. Pekka. The scientists and law enforcement that
>need to know who is engaging in what activity already
>know. Therefore, Mr. Shoner need not divulge any
>information to the meteorite list group member above
>"pekka s". He could set you straight if he wanted to
>but he is not sharing any information openly with the
>meteorite list because by keeping you in the dark Mr.
>Shoner helps  protect the scientists. He is not at
>liberty to discuss with you what he has sent to us and
>not sent and what the results are. He is not allowed
>to convey anything meaningful because it is too
>damaging for all of  you and the scientific
>community."http://www.bccmeteorites.com/matteo2.htmlbest,pekka
>s-- Pekka SavolainenJokiharjuntie 4FIN-71330
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