Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Market 101 

MexicoDoug at aol.com MexicoDoug at aol.com
Fri Jun 11 19:39:16 EDT 2004


Hola Randy,

Looks like I've missed out on the special circumstances of this LA001 deal.  
If you agree with most of what I said, maybe none of it applies to that 
particular auction.

The comments you make I completely agree with:  If one goes to a live auction 
where the auctioneer has invested in making the event, the auctioneer 
certainly is ethical in requiring that third party dealing is prohibited.  The key is 
that the auctioneer has invested.  The list is different, though, isn't it?  
Of is it owned by whoever posts?

This list is about as good as a definition of public domain as I can come up 
with.  It is not the exclusive premises of anyone, and does not intend to 
favor dealers over buyers, or vice-versa.  If buyers can bid for a seller's piece, 
seller's can certainly bid for a buyer's money without yelling "FOUL", 
"UNETHICAL", "IMMATURE", "THAT WAS REVENGE", "SPECIAL CASE", etc.

Is a want ad concept is less ethical than a for sale ad, when neither is paid 
and all are being sent on a free forum to buyers?  Or is everyone just trying 
to guaranty, that if they speak out first no one will interfere in their bid 
to get the most they can for their product?  While it is a two edged sword, 
the only true loser is the Buyer who has less resources and tends to support The 
Meteoritic Rule: "Whoever has the meteorites, makes the rules".

So maybe a compromise is in order.  If dealings among big established dealers 
are restricted to Michael Blood's guidelines, which are waived when you deal 
with the Have Not's of the meteorite world, like me, so they can try to build 
a collection of a garanteed value and spread the word.  But it is pretty sad 
that the vocal opinion of the list tends to support increases in pricing at the 
expense of attracting new collectors ... many of which become summarily 
disenchanted because they didn't get in earlier in the pyramid.  Just some musing 
while I wait from Cassini News ... Mr. Baalke !!!!  Tell me about Phoebe and I 
promise to not let this miserable heat wave further corrupt my keyboard ...

Saludos, Doug


En un mensaje con fecha 06/11/2004 3:36:33 PM Mexico Daylight Time, 
acculabs at hotmail.com escribe:

> 
> Hi Doug and List Members.
> 
>  I agree with everything that you state in principle, Doug.  It is 
> unfortunate that you chose the LA001 thread to make your point.
> 
>  The LA001 situation has nothing to do with free marketing of goods or price 
> fixing.  The closest example that I can think of that would be similar to 
> the LA001 situation is this:
> 
>  You are attending a live auction.  The auctioneer brings a lot up for bid 
> that you just happen to have one just like it with you.  You think "hey I can 
> sell mine here too".  So you go around and offer everyone your piece as an 
> alternative to the auctioneer's lot.  I am pretty sure you would be escorted 
> from the premises.  This situation has nothing to do with free markets or price 
> fixing.
> 
>  Randy
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: MexicoDoug at aol.com 
> >To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com 
> >Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite 
> 

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