[meteorite-list] Chiang Khan

Fri Dec 17 08:44:40 EST 2004

Me only a 1 gr. fragment take few time after the fall

Matteo

>From: "Christian Anger" <christian.anger at aon.at>
>To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Chiang Khan
>Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 14:10:47 +0100
>
>Hi,
>
>I also have a 2.4 grams Individual of Chiang Khan that I got from Oliver in
>trade.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Christian
>
>IMCA #2673
>www.austromet.com
>
>Christian Anger
>Korngasse 6
>2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg
>AUSTRIA
>
>email: christian.anger at aon.at
>-----Original Message-----
>From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
>[mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Jörn
>Koblitz
>Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 12:27 PM
>To: Martin Altmann; Zelimir Gabelica; meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>Subject: AW: [meteorite-list] Chiang Khan
>
>Hello Martin and Zelimir,
>
>Additionally to what you listed, I could find the following repositories 
>and
>weights for Chian Khan:
>
>682g: Tucson, Haag Colln.
>71g: Kankakee, Illinois, J.Schwade Colln.
>67.9g: Zürich, J.Nauber Colln.
>44g: Kanagawa, Mus. Nat. Hist.
>
>Cheers,
>Jörn
>
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Martin Altmann [mailto:Altmann at Meteorite-Martin.de]
> > Gesendet: Freitag, 17. Dezember 2004 10:51
> > An: Zelimir Gabelica; meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> > Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Chiang Khan
> >
> >
> > Hi Zelimir,
> >
> > The "Catalogue" itself lists:
> >
> > 2588.4g  UCLA
> > 224.5g    Bartoschewitz
> > 189g       New York Nat.Hist.
> > 106g       Washington U.S.Nat.Mus.
> > 39g         Paris Hist.Nat.
> > 32g        Du Pont
> > 22g + 12.6g + 8.7g  London, Nat.Hist.
> > 18.2g     Berlin, Humboldt-Univ.
> > 14.82g   Ottawa, Geol.Surv.
> > 9g          Tempe
> > 7.7g       Chicago, Field Mus.
> > 5g          Albuquerque   Univ New Mex
> > 2.4g       Muenster Inst.f.Planetologie
> >
> > Not mentioned there is a 2.5kg stone in the Chulalongkorn University,
> > Bangkok
> >
> > Oliver Alge found on his 3 expeditions, which took together
> > almost 1 year,
> > altogether  606g
> >
> > The material confiscated after the fall from the laotic
> > military is lost.
> >
> > So we have without Haag's pieces already a tkw of  ~6.4kg.
> >
> > Nevertheless it stays extremely difficult to get
> > and for heaven's sake I invite the list members again to buy
> > the remaining
> > pieces of Oliver,
> > as he needs the money to found his help project in the
> > strewnfield of Chiang
> > Khan, where he plans to move to.
> > Especially the European members should consider to take their
> > share on this
> > rare offer as the USD is weak as never before and the price
> > with 37$ per
> > gram is quite low.
> >
> > Meanwhile I made new photos of the remaining pieces and will
> > email them on
> > request.
> > Some of the pieces are fresh like a Juancheng and not so
> > brownish as it
> > seems on the pictures on Olivers page
> > http://www.meteorite-oliver.com/index.html
> >
> > So if you NEED NEW PHOTOS, please E-mail.
> >
> > The smallest cut is sold now, the 6.25g were Bernhard's
> > specimen and this
> > week the 41.1g killeroriented was gone too (I send a photo of
> > the back with
> > the rollover lip and the only partial molten surface to The
> > Picture of the
> > day).
> >
> > Remarkably from sice is the complete crusted stone of 70grams,
> > perhaps I should give it to captain Blood for the Tucson
> > auction, as here in
> > Germany most collectors have no glimpse, that they won't get a similar
> > specimen anymore in their collectors life and the more experienced
> > collectors in USA seems to fear complications, if they would
> > order from
> > another country, although it's fast, safe, easy and simple.
> >
> > The 23.2g fragment is the ugliest piece, concerning stainings.
> >
> > Extremely nice and fresh are the 12.2g broken individual and the 17.1g
> > individual, where only a small part is missing, both have
> > very nice black
> > fusion crust.
> >
> > If they'll be gone, they'll be gone.
> >
> > Ask Mike Farmer, what he thinks about this price, I bet he
> > never would give
> > away his two little specimens at such a low price.
> >
> > May someone ask Rob Haag, wether and how much grams he owns in his
> > collection?
> > 100% of the money will be used for the help project and for
> > that purpose.
> >
> > So let's go!
> > Martin
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Zelimir Gabelica" <Z.Gabelica at uha.fr>
> > To: <c>
> > Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 7:56 AM
> > Subject: [meteorite-list] Chiang Khan
> >
> >
> > Bernard, Martin, list,
> >
> > With all of our listees I also feel very sorry for Bernhard about the
> > burglary.
> > Bernhard, I wish you could rapidly overcome your angriness
> > and re-positive
> > again. Positiving is perhaps, in this case, considering that
> > the good news
> > is that the other 600 items were ignored by...ignorant burglars.
> > But life is full of (also) nice surprises. No doubt Stefan
> > (Ralew) will
> > soon have some more beauties to propose you. I just remember
> > his superb
> > display table in Ensisheim and regret not having found time
> > to look more
> > closely at.
> >
> > Regarding Chiang Khan, I agree that these are very seldom
> > seen as offer.
> > There should be some nice pieces in collections or museums though.
> > I was lucky to acquire a complete 100% crusted individual of 41 grams
> > (probably from David New in the 1995's). Considering the mass
> > existing in
> > other collections (I remember Haag is mentioning having a considerable
> > mass) I just wonder whether the TKW as mentioned in catalogs (also in
> > Meteorites from A to Z), namely only 367 grams (total 31
> > pieces recovered),
> > is correct?
> > Did someone make a (more recent) compilation or have updated
> > repositories ?
> > Bernd ? Jörn ?
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > Zelimir
> >
> >
> > A 22:44 16/12/04 +0100, vous avez écrit :
> > >So it would be helpful, whenever someone from the list will
> > get an offer
> > for
> > >Chiang Khan or if he/she detects a piece of Chiang Khan on
> > ebay to contact
> > >Bernhard,
> > >as Chiang Khan is a superrare locality, which nobody has for
> > sale (only
> > >Oliver Alge and in his collection Bartoschewitz has some and
> > perhaps Haag I
> > >heard) and I remember well to whome I sold specimens for Oliver.
> > >
> > >Thanks!
> > >Martin
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Bernhard Rems" <bernhard at bgrems.com>
> > >To: <Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> > >Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 10:24 PM
> > >Subject: [meteorite-list] Burglary
> > >
> > >
> > >Hi,
> > >
> > >Just wanted to tell you that my flat has been robbed and
> > devastated today.
> > >The thieves stole all my smaller electronical equipment, a
> > collection of
> > >roman coins, a collection of golden coins from the Austrian Hungarian
> > empire
> > >and other things of value. They completely ignored my
> > meteorite collection
> > >with over 600 items, except for a small portion of
> > meteorites that were
> > >laying on my table with the PDA and the iPod. These
> > meteorites were those I
> > >purchased from Stefan Ralew a few days ago, and the nice
> > Chiang Khan I got
> > >from Martin Altmann.
> > >
> > >I have no idea why they took these and nothing else.
> > >
> > >Bernhard
> > >
> > >PS: No insurance. Me idiot.
> > >
> > >
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> > ENSCMu, Lab. GSEC,
> > 3, Rue A. Werner,
> > F-68093 Mulhouse Cedex, France
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