AW: [meteorite-list] Chiang Khan
Jörn Koblitz
koblitz at microfab.de
Fri Dec 17 06:26:46 EST 2004
Hello Martin and Zelimir,
Additionally to what you listed, I could find the following repositories and weights for Chian Khan:
682g: Tucson, Haag Colln.
71g: Kankakee, Illinois, J.Schwade Colln.
67.9g: Zürich, J.Nauber Colln.
44g: Kanagawa, Mus. Nat. Hist.
Cheers,
Jörn
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Martin Altmann [mailto:Altmann at Meteorite-Martin.de]
> Gesendet: Freitag, 17. Dezember 2004 10:51
> An: Zelimir Gabelica; meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Chiang Khan
>
>
> Hi Zelimir,
>
> The "Catalogue" itself lists:
>
> 2588.4g UCLA
> 224.5g Bartoschewitz
> 189g New York Nat.Hist.
> 106g Washington U.S.Nat.Mus.
> 39g Paris Hist.Nat.
> 32g Du Pont
> 22g + 12.6g + 8.7g London, Nat.Hist.
> 18.2g Berlin, Humboldt-Univ.
> 14.82g Ottawa, Geol.Surv.
> 9g Tempe
> 7.7g Chicago, Field Mus.
> 5g Albuquerque Univ New Mex
> 2.4g Muenster Inst.f.Planetologie
>
> Not mentioned there is a 2.5kg stone in the Chulalongkorn University,
> Bangkok
>
> Oliver Alge found on his 3 expeditions, which took together
> almost 1 year,
> altogether 606g
>
> The material confiscated after the fall from the laotic
> military is lost.
>
> So we have without Haag's pieces already a tkw of ~6.4kg.
>
> Nevertheless it stays extremely difficult to get
> and for heaven's sake I invite the list members again to buy
> the remaining
> pieces of Oliver,
> as he needs the money to found his help project in the
> strewnfield of Chiang
> Khan, where he plans to move to.
> Especially the European members should consider to take their
> share on this
> rare offer as the USD is weak as never before and the price
> with 37$ per
> gram is quite low.
>
> Meanwhile I made new photos of the remaining pieces and will
> email them on
> request.
> Some of the pieces are fresh like a Juancheng and not so
> brownish as it
> seems on the pictures on Olivers page
> http://www.meteorite-oliver.com/index.html
>
> So if you NEED NEW PHOTOS, please E-mail.
>
> The smallest cut is sold now, the 6.25g were Bernhard's
> specimen and this
> week the 41.1g killeroriented was gone too (I send a photo of
> the back with
> the rollover lip and the only partial molten surface to The
> Picture of the
> day).
>
> Remarkably from sice is the complete crusted stone of 70grams,
> perhaps I should give it to captain Blood for the Tucson
> auction, as here in
> Germany most collectors have no glimpse, that they won't get a similar
> specimen anymore in their collectors life and the more experienced
> collectors in USA seems to fear complications, if they would
> order from
> another country, although it's fast, safe, easy and simple.
>
> The 23.2g fragment is the ugliest piece, concerning stainings.
>
> Extremely nice and fresh are the 12.2g broken individual and the 17.1g
> individual, where only a small part is missing, both have
> very nice black
> fusion crust.
>
> If they'll be gone, they'll be gone.
>
> Ask Mike Farmer, what he thinks about this price, I bet he
> never would give
> away his two little specimens at such a low price.
>
> May someone ask Rob Haag, wether and how much grams he owns in his
> collection?
> 100% of the money will be used for the help project and for
> that purpose.
>
> So let's go!
> Martin
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Zelimir Gabelica" <Z.Gabelica at uha.fr>
> To: <c>
> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 7:56 AM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Chiang Khan
>
>
> Bernard, Martin, list,
>
> With all of our listees I also feel very sorry for Bernhard about the
> burglary.
> Bernhard, I wish you could rapidly overcome your angriness
> and re-positive
> again. Positiving is perhaps, in this case, considering that
> the good news
> is that the other 600 items were ignored by...ignorant burglars.
> But life is full of (also) nice surprises. No doubt Stefan
> (Ralew) will
> soon have some more beauties to propose you. I just remember
> his superb
> display table in Ensisheim and regret not having found time
> to look more
> closely at.
>
> Regarding Chiang Khan, I agree that these are very seldom
> seen as offer.
> There should be some nice pieces in collections or museums though.
> I was lucky to acquire a complete 100% crusted individual of 41 grams
> (probably from David New in the 1995's). Considering the mass
> existing in
> other collections (I remember Haag is mentioning having a considerable
> mass) I just wonder whether the TKW as mentioned in catalogs (also in
> Meteorites from A to Z), namely only 367 grams (total 31
> pieces recovered),
> is correct?
> Did someone make a (more recent) compilation or have updated
> repositories ?
> Bernd ? Jörn ?
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Zelimir
>
>
> A 22:44 16/12/04 +0100, vous avez écrit :
> >So it would be helpful, whenever someone from the list will
> get an offer
> for
> >Chiang Khan or if he/she detects a piece of Chiang Khan on
> ebay to contact
> >Bernhard,
> >as Chiang Khan is a superrare locality, which nobody has for
> sale (only
> >Oliver Alge and in his collection Bartoschewitz has some and
> perhaps Haag I
> >heard) and I remember well to whome I sold specimens for Oliver.
> >
> >Thanks!
> >Martin
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Bernhard Rems" <bernhard at bgrems.com>
> >To: <Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> >Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 10:24 PM
> >Subject: [meteorite-list] Burglary
> >
> >
> >Hi,
> >
> >Just wanted to tell you that my flat has been robbed and
> devastated today.
> >The thieves stole all my smaller electronical equipment, a
> collection of
> >roman coins, a collection of golden coins from the Austrian Hungarian
> empire
> >and other things of value. They completely ignored my
> meteorite collection
> >with over 600 items, except for a small portion of
> meteorites that were
> >laying on my table with the PDA and the iPod. These
> meteorites were those I
> >purchased from Stefan Ralew a few days ago, and the nice
> Chiang Khan I got
> >from Martin Altmann.
> >
> >I have no idea why they took these and nothing else.
> >
> >Bernhard
> >
> >PS: No insurance. Me idiot.
> >
> >
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> Prof. Zelimir Gabelica
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