[meteorite-list] STILL WAITING FOR PELLISSON RESPONSE

Pekka Savolainen pekka.savolainen at dlc.fi
Fri Dec 3 22:50:19 EST 2004 

well, perhaps some  writs to US, canadian and several courts in EU would 
calm
them down a bit...;-

There was a time, the North African countries was in fact colonies of 
France,
but not anymore. Can imagine, this is a bit frustrating, but the only 
thing as the
result of this "advertising" is, Pellisons will have only local customers.

Any lawyers collecting meteorites?  Just wondering, this nonsense makes 
this
kind of confuse in the world-wide community...

best,

pekka s



Michael Farmer wrote:

> Dean, don't hold your breath. The Pellisons come on this list every 
> few months to advertise their stuff, but never have any dialogue.
> I have never seen them answer a question, they just post their stuff, 
> and fade away for a few weeks or months.
> Mike Farmer
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "dean bessey" <deanbessey at yahoo.com>
> To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 5:07 PM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] STILL WAITING FOR PELLISSON RESPONSE
>
>
>> As per the Pellisson's email of a couple hours ago,
>> and even givin the fact about that moronic website
>> that was purporedly created by the Pellisson' I have
>> an open mind
>> and am hoping to hear the Pellisson's side of the
>> story. I dont speak french so I am getting my
>> information from Bruno and what appears to be the
>> Pellisson's own website.  As I said I have an open
>> mind about this and I want to know if it is Bruno that
>> is conning everybody as the email that the Pellisson's
>> made several hours ago seems to imply or if the
>> Pellisson's are really such lying scumbags as Bruno
>> and their own website would make us all believe.
>> Below is my previous email to this list with all of
>> the questions that I am sure everybody on this list
>> would like answered by the Pellissons.
>> Give us all the complete story so as to clear up any
>> rumours. If you guys are not the lying scumbags that
>> everybody now believes that you are I am sure that you
>> can at least give us an explanation for for this
>> moronic terrorist website.
>> Sincerely
>> DEAN BESSEY
>>
>> --- dean bessey <deanbessey at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hmmmm. Maybe an apology is in order. Are you saying
>>> that Bruno and Carine is full of #$@$ and that you
>>> have never said that meteorites are being used to
>>> support terrorism? Has bruno faked that part of what
>>> appears to be your website  and saying that it is
>>> from
>>> you?
>>> And can you confirm that you have not used my name
>>> or
>>> anything that I wrote publicly or privately in
>>> french
>>> court or media to support this ridiculous claim that
>>> deset nomads are somehow supporting al quida which
>>> you
>>> know as well as anybody is not true?
>>> Can you confirm that my name was never used in
>>> french
>>> court and if it was can you spell out exactly by
>>> whom
>>> and in what context? (Sorry my french is non
>>> existant
>>> so I need an english translation).
>>> Since we are trying to be civil please answer those
>>> questions in a straitforward manner for me. I think
>>> everybody else on this list would appriciate the
>>> honest answer also so as to clear up any
>>> misunderstandings about the rumours that has been
>>> flying around.
>>> Sincerely
>>> DEAN BESSEY
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- SaharaTeam at aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>> > Let us explain the French problem with B.
>>> Fectay/C.
>>> > Bidaut
>>> >
>>> > Bruno Fectay and Carine Bidaut have sued us in
>>> March
>>> >  2004 for libel. It is
>>> > "only" a civil action between B. Fectay/C. Bidaut
>>> > and  us to claim for
>>> > damages.
>>> > Now we are also claiming for damages against
>>> them.
>>> >
>>> > It will take several months to the justice before
>>> to
>>> > return a  verdict.
>>> > As you can imagine, nothing is illegally done in
>>> > front of the court  :
>>> > private emails are not admissible.
>>> > And  "nobody" can be summoned to  appear in a
>>> civil
>>> > action.
>>> >
>>> > All the remarks and all the publicity which  have
>>> > been given to this affair
>>> > are the consequences of this civil  action.
>>> >
>>> > Regarding our web page on NWA meteorites, the
>>> French
>>> > court  decided in our
>>> > favor:
>>> > "Il ne peut être contesté que le débat sur les
>>> lieux
>>> >  de découvertes des
>>> > météorites est légitime et présente un intérêt
>>> > scientifique. La même
>>> > légitimité doit être reconnue pour les discussions
>>> > sur  le transport et les
>>> > opérations commerciales relatives à ces
>>> météorites"
>>> >
>>> > We hope that everybody can return to his passion.
>>> > And we wish  that those
>>> > interested by the subject will wait for the
>>> official
>>> >  decision.
>>> > And if Bruno Fectay has something to express why
>>> > does he needs to  write
>>> > through N. Classen and not with his own email ?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > For those  who want to know more about us and our
>>> > work on Saharan
>>> > strewnfields, you can  browse our web pages:
>>> > http://www.SaharaMet.com
>>> >
>>> > And our 2003 expedition  on Mauritanian  craters:
>>> >
>>>
>> http://www.saharamet.com/expedition/2003/craters.html
>>
>>> >
>>> > Best  regards,
>>> > Richard and Roland Pelisson
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message  -----
>>> > From: "Norbert Classen" <trifid at timewarp.de>
>>> > To:  "meteorite-list"
>>> > <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>> > Cc: "La Memoire  de la Terre" <info at meteorite.fr>
>>> > Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 6:38  AM
>>> > Subject: [meteorite-list] Pellisson, the end of a
>>> > free meteorite  hobby?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > > Hi All,
>>> > >
>>> > > I'm forwarding this message on  behalf of Bruno
>>> &
>>> > Carine.
>>> > > They are having problems to post to the  list,
>>> and
>>> > thus they
>>> > > asked me for assistance. Please read  below.
>>> > >
>>> > > BTW, I believe their message to be of major
>>> > importance  to
>>> > > us all. We shouldn't allow a few rotten apples
>>> to
>>> > spoil our
>>> > >  hobby - so please read what Bruno & Carine have
>>> > to say since
>>> > > it  affects us all, and a few of us, more
>>> > directly.
>>> > >
>>> > > If you want to  take action, please contact
>>> Bruno
>>> > & Carine in
>>> > > that matter. You may  reach them via:
>>> > info at meteorite.fr
>>> > >
>>> > > Best,
>>> > >  Norbert
>>> > >
>>> > > -----Original Message-----
>>> > >
>>> > > Dear List  Members,
>>> > >
>>> > > this subject is of high interest as it will
>>> affect
>>> > all  of us
>>> > > including the scientists. What the Pellissons
>>> are
>>> > doing is  just
>>> > > unbelievable, they already did contact the
>>> French
>>> > interior
>>> > >  Ministry as well as the Customs offices in
>>> > different countries.
>>> > > They are  linking the meteorite community to
>>> > terrorism in different
>>> > >  ways.
>>> > >
>>> > > They did send to major medias a 64 pages
>>> document
>>> > full of  crap
>>> > > with parts of YOUR private and public mails to
>>> try
>>> > to  establish
>>> > > that nobody but themselves have the right to
>>> sell
>>> > meteorites!!
>>> > >
>>> > > Be aware than in a close future we will all have
>>>
>>> > problems shipping
>>> > > or crossing borders with meteorites, thanks to
>>> > them!
>>> > > Just try a Google search for "money for
>>> terrorism"
>>> > and you will  get
>>> > > straight to their page, listed in first
>>> place....
>>> > see it  here:
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>>
>> http://www.google.fr/search?hl=fr&q=%22money+for+terrorism%22&meta=
>>
>>> > >
>>> > >  They are using metanames and cross linking
>>> > > with pages about horrible  things just to
>>> attract
>>> > interest on them.
>>> > >
>>> > > You all know that we  did bring them to court,
>>> > they already have been
>>> > > sentenced in emergency  during the last Tucson
>>> > show. Now we are driving
>>> > > them to serious things,  we received their list
>>> of
>>> > pseudo arguments
>>> > > from our  attorneys.
>>> > >
>>>
>> === message truncated ===
>>
>>
>>
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